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Same-Sex Marriage an 'Economic Imperative'

A vote in favor of same-sex marriage in November could also be a vote for improving Maryland's long-term economic prospects, according to one Montgomery County official.

Lily Qi, a special projects manager for Montgomery County Executive Ike Leggett, Thursday told some attendees of the Maryland Association of Counties conference in Ocean City that communities that attract "the creative class" will succeed. Qi was speaking at a seminar on use of incentives for positive economic development.

She specifically linked the same-sex marriage vote to improving the climate for entrepreneurs in Maryland.

"It is an economic imperative that we welcome all people," said Qi, following the meeting.

"An area that tends to welcome people of different backgrounds is a place that will thrive."

Qi said the vote can "send a message that we are accepting of people who are different."

Bruce Robinson

6:08 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012

If you are a Democrat, you can say:
Gay people are "the creative class";
Black people will be returned to the chains of slavery if a Republican is elected; and
gays and blacks will cheer the dishonest characterizations that would warrant sensitivity training if made in a workplace.
The choices in November couldn't be clearer. The importance of your vote couldn't be greater.

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Arbutus Town Crier

1:36 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Race's
Religion's
Division
Government, Media corruption due to the above
Remove Race, Religion with I am an AMERICAN with morals
American Equal rights for everyone not separated by race or religion
Know the rest of the world is ruled by organized religion that conflicts and misguides pining My religion against yours! Our God is your God, Good loving with peace.
Murder is murder, how many laws u add and you apply crime is crime Hate Crime labeling divides Americans. Murder of a white ,Black,or any other ethnicity is Murder.
America was labeled as endowed by the creator, My God Is your God we live in peace
We are not a Christian Nation and was not founded on those principles except one Group that is respected because we tolerate it called that's called freedom. You cant change nature go against it and well look were we are

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Reggie

12:34 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012

What do you mean? Vote Democrat so that I can say all sorts of racist things?

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zep

4:30 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Wake up; we're IN the chains of slevery and a "black" resident-in-chief put us here! The two party system is the longest running joke in this country as you'll see IN SHORT ORDER.

FIFA_archived

6:19 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012

Or choose the bigots and tax evaders.

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Peter Baldwin

10:29 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

really... those are the only options you see? LOL... then i guess you just put yourself in the class of Bigot. Good Job stereotyping yourself with your nonsesicale dribble.

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FIFA_archived

11:41 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Peter, your "nonsesicale" dribble could be spelled a lot better because it looks like nonsensical dribble.

The post I responded to is clearly from a bigot in my opinion and if you support that opinion you are in that class as well.

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Peter Baldwin

12:50 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

I may miss a letter or two but sorry kid no bigot here... i just do not support any idea that gay marriage is correct or should be embraced because of some made up economic value.

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Geepay

1:21 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

It should be "drivel" btw.

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Geepay

1:23 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

It's "drivel" by the way:)

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FIFA_archived

1:41 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Gee pay, correct, I was only restating the dribble.

Joe

7:55 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

""send a message that we are accepting of people who are different.""

Others have been saying these people were "different" for many decades and have been called hateful homophobic bigots.

"communities that attract "the creative class" will succeed."

And you straight non creative "class" knuckle draggers will not do as well without those "different" and "creative class" of people. You just will not succeed without them. Makes you wonder how communities survived all these years with just us non "creative class" 'normal' people don't it?

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George Helm

9:09 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012

For the creative class, "You didn't do that"!

Laura Jackson

8:30 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Oh my! So, I am going to "fail" if I do not accept same-sex marriage??? Oh well. I suppose I will fail then. This man makes NO SENSE whatsoever by saying the economy will improve by voting for same-sex marriage. What does marriage have to do with the economy? Absolutely nothing! And, Bruce--you are clueless. Saying that "blacks will be returned to the chains of slavery if a Republican is elected." WHAT?? You are nuts! The economy has been the worst it has ever been since Obama took over. And, you want a President who is not a Christian, has no morals or values (believes in same-sex marriage and abortion up to the 8th month of pregnancy), and, more importantly, who refuses to STAND or put his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. I don't even think he KNOWS the Pledge of Allegiance! BTW--for those that may be "ignorant," Obama is NOT "BLACK." He is MIXED! In fact, he was raised by a Radical Muslim father and an Atheist mother. Well, actually, they didn't want to raise him--so, his Grandmother raised him (and she was WHITE). So, don't think he's "black." He's just very confused (and does not believe in the Bible). Also, being "gay" does not make one "creative." Geez! Please do not say that the gays are not "hurting anyone either." Had it not been for the gay people, AIDS would not exist in this Country. And, yes--innocent people are getting AIDS (again--transmitted by the sexually immoral) by blood transfusions, etc.

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Joe

8:44 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Laura, reread Bruce's comment. I believe he is on your side.

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Tillie Diesel

1:37 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Laura, did you forget your medication again?
And people wonder why this country is heading into the toilet... you have ignorant people who can't think for themselves.
Here are some facts:
Obama is Christian. Romney is Mormon.
Republicans have blocked 100% of all economic bills. Republicans have sponsored 482 bills banning abortion and contraceptives. They have put forward 0 (ZERO) economic bills. The only goal of the republicans is to make Obama a 1 term president at the citizen’s expense. Note: Congress has the lowest favorable rating in history (8%) (That’s 8% out of 100 for the ignorant people out there)
Who wants 8 month abortions? That is crazy talk (look in mirror now).
Educated people know Obama is mixed. He has been in the news long enough (again, ignorant people might not know). Why would he be confused as to his nationality? Seems like you are confused (again, forget your meds today?)
If gays brought AIDS to this country, than straight people brought CANCER to this country. Feel better now?

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Corbin Dallas Multipass

4:04 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

You are pretty crazy and Tillie did a good job of rebutting you, but I would just add this response that actually has to do with the article topic:

"What does marriage have to do with the economy?"

Renting limos, renting chapels/hotels, paying for airfare and gasoline to get to the wedding location, buying a dress, buying a cake, buying gifts, paying for a photographer. All those expenses from a wedding drive the economy. Right now DC is getting a lot of Tax dollars from weddings that Maryland is missing out on.

If a gay person can work in Maryland or Massachusetts, and Mass lets them get married, guess where they're gonna go? You've now lost out on the taxes on their income from years of employment.

If someone doesn't have marriage rights and their partners health insurance doesn't transfer to them, they can now be faced with huge medical costs that can ruin them financially, potentially forcing them into foreclosure or destroying their credit rating.

Basically, you have to be very short sighted to not see the link between marriage and the economy.

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Dadof2

12:48 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Oh my Supreme Being! (Dare I say "God" and risk setting you off again?) Laura, Laura, Laura... please keep posting. I really enjoy reading your posts, and you have no idea how much good you're doing for the Democratic Party here in Maryland. Hey, maybe you and Sarah Palin can do your own reality TV show: "Two Crazy Chicks Who Ain't Speaking at the GOP Convention." Uhmmm, yeah, I won't be watching that...

Laura Jackson

8:36 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

And, please do not forget that Obama went to the church ministered by Rev. Wright for over 20 years!!! Reverend Wright was the man who said, "It's not God Bless America, but God D__N American!" He laughed at the people who suffered by the events of 9/11 and said that Americans DESERVED it! It wasn't until Rev. Wright said these things that Obama decided not to "support" this minister. But, Rev. Wright must have had these SAME thoughts for 20 years!!! People do not change overnight! So, yeah--talk about a BIGOT. Rev. Wright was one of them--HATED WHITE PEOPLE and made no bones about it by saying so! I'd much rather "fail" and go to Heaven than to "succeed" here and go to Hell.

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fred

9:07 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

laura, i do not support obama, but your redneck bigotry is really showing with those comments.

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Tillie Diesel

1:42 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Romney is a Mormon.

Romney supporters include the Family Research Council, a know Hate Group.

Why so bitter Laura? If you want to pay more in taxes, just give your money away. Why make the rest of the middle class suffer because you don't like black people and gays?

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Neighbor

10:56 am on Monday, August 20, 2012

@ Corbin etc.
100 years of slavery is not a valid excuse to use racial slurs against other demographics. We've all endured hardships throughout the ages. No one alive today has been a slave to anything but debt, and all Americans share this burden equally.

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Bryan P. Sears

8:22 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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8:23 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Joe

9:01 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Mr Sears, what was offensive more than anything else on this site? You allow harsh personal attacks all fracking day long!

Laura Jackson

9:06 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Just sounded like Bruce is a true Democrat. But, Mr. "Sears" is a fry short of a Happy Meal. Yes--let's all be gay and the economy will improve!!! Why??? Because everyone knows that gay people buy nothing but the most expensive designer clothing, shoes, household items, etc. Or perhaps he said the economy would improve because AIDS would then become a world-wide epidemic (thus, give more money to the doctors and hospitals). Who knows what that man is thinking!

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Laura Jackson

9:06 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Sorry if I misunderstood you, Bruce.

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Bruce Robinson

9:22 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Thank you, Laura. I was referring to Mr. Biden's statement. I understand your passion.

Liz Amoss

9:08 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

I'm so glad to see that Ms. Qi has finally recognized the stereotype of gays being somehow "more creative" than other identity groups. I only wish that she had as eloquently mentioned the other stereotypical identity groups that have so much to offer our economy:
Asians - Mathematical Intelligence Class (We need more Asians in the tech field!)
African Americans - Athletic Class (Support our major sports franchises!)
Indians - The Dunkin Donut Franchise Ownership Class (got that from VP Biden!)
Irish Americans - The Drinking Class (Supports our local bars!)
Native Americans - The Rug Making Class (Every home should have one!)

Obviously, this is all tongue in cheek, folks but the point is made. Its amazing to me how often progressives will use the language of (soft) bigotry and identity politics to advance their agenda. And the fact that an irresponsible press will not call them out on it is even more shameful. In their minds the end DOES justify the means.

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Joe

9:30 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

See fred's "redneck" comment for proof of your theory.

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Tillie Diesel

1:55 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Liz, all the groups you mentioned have privileges not afforded to the gay community. The gays are the only group of people that can be legally discriminated against.

Laura Jackson

9:50 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Oh Joe--LOL--I'm not "insulted" by Fred's comment. Calling me a "redneck"? That's funny. I have to believe that Fred is just lashing out because he happens to be "gay." Sorry, Fred. You can come out of that closet now. Nobody is going to hurt you. LOL. And, Liz--you're funny. Very good points you made! Nobody should be "stereotyped." I only pointed out that gays were good with our economy by buying "designer" things; because, I wanted Mr. Sears and Ms. Qi to see just how stupid they sound! BTW--Fred--if you have time sometime soon, could you help me to re-decorate my home? LOL.

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Joe

9:52 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

I have never met anyone insulted by being called a redneck.

Laura Jackson

9:57 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Oh--and Fred--just curious? How did you see my comments as being bigotry??? Because I stated the FACTS? It's true--I'm so sorry if you cannot take the truth. The fact IS that most people I know that voted for Obama seemed "proud" of the fact that they had their "first BLACK President." But, he is NOT black. He is mixed. THAT, my dear, is a FACT. And, yeah--Rev. Wright IS a BIGOT. He stated he hates Americans and America deserved what they got on 9/11. So, what does THAT tell you? Get a clue, Fred. I am NOT a bigot. A Christian with Christian values that does not believe in same-sex marriage nor abortion does NOT make me a bigot. Sorry to disappoint you. But, go ahead, Fred--support gay marriage. Had God intended for men to be with men and women to be with women, he would have only created ONE sex! Not two! And, please do not be "stupid" to say that no children would be born. Because God had all the power to create people any way He wanted. He could have created ONE sex that was able to reproduce by itself. But, he did not. If you call me a "bigot" because I do not support gay marriage, then you must be calling "GOD" a bigot, as well (since He, Himself, does not approve of homosexuality). So there!

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Tillie Diesel

2:01 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Liz because you hear something on foxnews does not make it fact.
"The fact IS that most people I know that voted for Obama seemed "proud"" Seemed does not equate to facts. Such as "Laura seems intelligent because she can type". After reading your posts we know you are not intelligent because you can type... Laura, pick up a dictionary and look up bigot. Be proud and own up to the fact that you are a bigot. When did that word become a negative?

What you believe in is not the problem. What you believe I should believe in is the problem. Now that is a fact!

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zep

4:45 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

"laura"; you get the award for being the most repugnant dullard whose pokes I've had the displeasure of viewing today. One can only hope you haven't bred, but if so, I rest assured your litter will inflict upon you the very same agonizing pain and frustration which you so maniacally spew upon all unfortunate enough to share your perimeter.
btw; PLEEEASE stay buried in your closet!!!

Amy Kelly

10:00 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Hello Laura, as a Gay American tax paying American i find your comments disturbing. My only hope is that some of the money from all the speed cameras and all the new casinos will go to Diversity Education for the schools. I'm sorry that you were totally underserved by the MD public education system. If you would like to continue to not recognize my civil union.. my partner and I will continue to take advantage of paying less tax in the state of MD and Fed. tax. Here's a secret: we can file seperately..shhhhh don't tell anyone...

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Amy Kelly

10:01 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Guess what.... the gays are broke too. pass it on.

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Joe

10:07 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

"Gay American"? Is that like Italian American or Native American? Why is it necessary to preface your American with who you have sex with?
I find that quite odd and creepy. Have you EVER heard of a Hetero American or Straight American?
To define yourself as you do with the first thing being your sexual preference is quite odd and disturbing.

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Corbin Dallas Multipass

4:11 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

"To define yourself as you do with the first thing being your sexual preference is quite odd and disturbing."

The law defines them separately by distributing rights unequally, not to mention they've been "othered" culturally for a long time.

" Is that like Italian American or Native American?"

Uh, exactly? They are Gay, and they are an American Citizen.

"Have you EVER heard of a Hetero American or Straight American?"

WHOOCOODANODE: https://www.facebook.com/pages/SAGE-Straight-Americans-for-Gay-Equality/193357392219

Laura Jackson

10:05 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

LOL, Amy! You are too funny. EVERYONE PAYS TAXES! Please stop your "ignorance" by indicating that only GAYS pay taxes! You say "GAYS ARE BROKE, TOO." Guess you'll just have to move to BROKEback MOUNTAIN! :D

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Tillie Diesel

3:34 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Mitt Romney doesn't pay taxes!

Joe

10:13 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

"Diversity Education for the schools." Progressive indoctrination and brainwashing!

Course of study? You WILL tolerate all alternative lifestyles. You WILL be called a bigot if you do not agree. THAT is what Diversity indoctrination is.

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JD1

1:37 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

I hear that Maryland will be announcing a new graduation requirement in Diversity Education.

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8:27 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Amy Kelly

10:22 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Wow Laura... so much hate and anger. I really feel sorry for you.

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8:27 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

10:26 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

That's right, Joe. I wouldn't have had my children going to schools with a bunch of gay people. Ew! Could you just imagine having to take showers after gym class with your classmates of your same sex GLARING at you??? I couldn't. That's disgusting to me. If you're gay, then fine. But, just keep your PRIVATES PRIVATE and to yourself. Don't say I'm a "bigot" because I'm NOT gay. I happen to like some gay people (such as Anderson Cooper, Ellen DeGeneres, and Jim Parsons to name a few). But, I don't agree with their lifestyle. And, no--I do NOT believe gay people should have children. Why? Because children live what they learn. And, if they LEARN that it's "normal" to be with someone of the same sex, they will, most likely, do the same. If you're gay and you DO want children, they you have to have them the "natural" way that God intended--for a man to be with a woman. Oh, sorry, Amy--that must really "disgust" you--the thought of a man's you-know-what coming (no pun intended) anywhere near you! So sorry.

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FIFA_archived

11:43 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

I bet you have some black friends as well.

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Tillie Diesel

2:12 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

This explains alot. You are uneducated. Because if you went to school, you did so with gay people.

I would NEVER let me kids socialize with your children. I can just image... the hate an anger in your household. You gotta love the "true" chrisitians... so full of hate and everything Jesus was not about.

Your beliefs do not make you a better person Laura, your behavior does. You are a sad woman.

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Joe

3:18 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Wow Tillie, can you show MORE hate and intolerance and can you come up with more names to call people?

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DawnP

11:59 am on Monday, August 20, 2012

Laura, if you have kids, and if they weren't homeschooled, I can GUARANTEE you that they went to school with gay classmates. Even if they were homeschooled, they may have. My heart breaks for any of your children who may be gay, growing up in a household where they are taught to hate themselves because of who they are.

Being gay is NOT something that is learned. It's something you are born as. It's not a "lifestyle," it's part of who you are. On the other hand, being a bigot is something that is learned. Congratulations on modeling hate for your children.

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Casey

12:23 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura - Your kids likely did go to school with gay kids. As for gay people being parents, "The research indicates that the children of lesbian and gay parents do not differ markedly from the children of heterosexual parents in their development, adjustment, or overall well-being." - The American Psychological Association (APA).

Being gay is not a lifestyle, it is a sexual orientation which is not a choice according to the APA. You cannot teach someone to be gay, so your statement that gay parents would teach their children to be gay is false.

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8:28 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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zep

4:51 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Well documented FACT. Homophobes are INVARIABLY closetcases. Well adjusted heteros don't give a damn who's queer or not. Says a LOT for miss thing here. She's likely too homely to get a girl.

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Dee

9:41 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012

For you to show such disgust for people who are gay is so sad. I agree that homosexuality is a sin as the bible says, however, so is fornification. How many people do you know have had sex prior to marriage? Do you show that same disgust towards them? You don't have to have the same beliefs as people or agree with their opinions. But as a Christian, we are taught to love all people.

Amy Kelly

10:26 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Joe, unfortunately there is seperation between church and state today in the US. However, I believe the only country not teaching tolerance at this time is Iran. So, feel free to embrace the Iranian open and loving culture.

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Joe

10:32 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Church and state? And that has to do with what?

Amy, you seem to need "Government Diversity Indoctrination" since you seem to lack the love of diverse opinions. Maybe you should be sent to Iran and see how long you last. You seem to "tolerate" only your views and claim that others that do not share yours are somehow like the Islamists who kill homosexuals. How intolerant you are Amy.

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Joe

10:33 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

One day you and yours will OFFER the same level of tolerance that you demand from others.

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JD1

1:52 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Amy - Actually NONE of the Islamic countries of the world accept the gay lifestyle and in many cases the penalty is death. In this country, those who are "different" (whatever that means) seem to want much more that tolerance. They expect that others abandon their core beliefs to accept their lifestyle and if they don't, they are a bigot or racist. The concept is absurd. Do what you want, act how you want, wear what you want, sleep with who you want but don't expect me to jump up and down and wave a flag pronouncing that I accept any and all lifestyles - I don't expect you to celebrate my choice to have a traditional marriage and live in a way that is consistent with the teachings of the Christian church.

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Amy Kelly

2:47 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Joe.. my point is if you like the idea of a gov't based on religious beliefs and especially the old testament... the first book of the Koran is the old testament.. You have a lot in common with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

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Joe

3:16 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Please Amy, show me where I EVER said I like "a gov't based on religious beliefs".
Why do you put words and thoughts where there is none? that is just wrong and a seeming habit with liberals. You make an accusation that has zero basis.

Peter Baldwin

10:38 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

All of society should be accepting of all types of people... the fact is that we can't change everyone who is not accepting. But our society has convinced itself on it's own political agenda. Because you have moral convictions on the same sex issue does not equal hate.....Please educate yourself!!!! "Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone's lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don't have to compromise convictions to be compassionate." -Rick Warren AND ANOTHER POINT..A nation or civilization that continues to produce soft-minded men purchases its own spiritual death on the installment plan... Martin Luther King Jr.

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Joe

10:45 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

BRAVO! I would give $10000 to find the moment in history when disagreeing with a particular lifestyle or sexual preference meant you hated the group you disagree with.
The democrats disagree with the republicans but do the democrats hate the republicans?

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Peter Baldwin

12:47 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

As i have read most of what has been written today you obviously just do not understand. There has never in history been a time such as this just as when slavery was first opposed and and politically challenged by the president, or when dictators committed horrible acts on humanity... Society says pick a side to be right or wrong and both are chastised for their choice but the real reality is Just because a few people hate what they disagree with does not mean everyone hates what they disagree with.... I have a daughter that is gay and love her very very much and even though she lives a lifestyle that i believe to be immoral and wrong does not equal me hating her or others like her. Ilove my daughter no less today than the day she was born and is now and always a welcome part of our family.

Most people spouting off here today are not really in the situation and REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT more than some melodrama tv series. Everyday very real people love the ones they foundation ally disagree with. That being said I can disagree with these political views and be ok with those I disagree with.

Amy Kelly

10:39 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Laura.. my point about taxes.. was that my partner and I file seperately... thus paying less in our share of tax.. I am well aware of that everyone pays tax. If the Feds recognized our civil union.. and other Americans that would increase revenue. It was just a point that I wanted to make to you. I'm glad that you find Ellen and Andreson tolerable. I will be sure to tell them at the next secret gay meeting that they have past your standard (i know that they are worried).

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Tillie Diesel

2:17 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

I Love this post! Thanks Amy.

Laura Jackson

10:39 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

You're so wrong, Amy. I don't have "hate and anger" problems. I just DO when it comes to my COUNTRY telling me I HAVE TO ACCEPT GAY MARRIAGE. No--last time I checked--we have FREEDOM in AMERICA. So, I am FREE to NOT accept gay marriage. And, why did you tell Joe, "Unfortunately, there is separation between church and state today in the U.S."? Just curious there. Since you openly confessed that you ARE "gay," you, UNFORTUNATELY, separated from the CHURCH a long time ago. And, that's what's wrong with our Country today--the fact that there IS a separation between Church and State. You've already gone against God's will for your life. Whether you believe it or not, HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN IN THE EYE'S OF GOD! So, keep on keeping on--whatever you're doing--I will let God judge you. Okay? And, Iran is the "only" Country not teaching "tolerance"? You'd better go back to school. There are MANY Countries not teaching tolerance! Just because Joe and I (and others) do not approve of gay marriage, YOU are the one who is showing her anger in here (by telling Joe to embrace the Iranian open and loving culture). I feel sorry for YOU, my dear. One day, you shall know the truth and feel the wrath of God. See 1 Corinthians 6-9 and study the WORD OF GOD.

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Joe

11:01 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

ALL countries or areas run by Islamists, now Egypt Somalia, Nigeria etc not only kill homosexuals but Christians. Our State Department and our President make comments about homosexual rights in those countries but have been silent on the Islamists killing Christians IN THEIR CHURCHES by burning the churches and shooting those fleeing the fire.

I proffer that Christians are less tolerated than homosexuals. See the comments in the Baltimore sun pages and even here.

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FIFA_archived

11:44 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

" I don't have "hate and anger" problems. I just DO when it comes to my COUNTRY telling me I HAVE TO ACCEPT GAY MARRIAGE."

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Tillie Diesel

2:30 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

"last time I checked--we have FREEDOM in AMERICA. "

Please reread your statement. I'll post it again for you.

"last time I checked--we have FREEDOM in AMERICA. "
Laura - that does not only apply to white straight christians. Now do you understand why people think you are nuts?
You are free not to accept Gay marriage. I am free to accept gay marriage. Leave the gays alone already and focus on being a better person.
Your god is not my GOD. My God loves all his children, thats why my God made some children gay and some children straight. For you to judge God just means you will spend eternity in a fiery pit with Lucifer.
Just a little aside, two straight people of opposite sx make a gay baby. Not to gay gals or guys. If straights stopped bumping and grinding there would be no more gay babies. Yeah, thats gonna happen. LOL
Laura just out of curiosity, when was the last time you had any action? This decade? You seem very much like a dried up old raisin who needs an out as to why her life stinks... gay people are not your problem. Some therapy may do wonders for you before you have a heart attack from so much hate and anger.

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zep

4:55 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

You really should see SOMEONE about your years of agonizing frustration, even IF you can't get a girl who wants you. It will help you get thru the day SO much better, dear.

Laura Jackson

10:45 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Oh--and Amy--you said, "I'm sorry that you were totally underserved by the MD public education system." For the record, in your last post to Joe, I thought I should let you know that the correct word is, "SEPARATION" and not, "SEPERATION." You say I was underserved by the MD public education system? Guess again. It looks as though you could use a spelling course. But, you're "excused," seeing that you were probably too busy looking at other girls' boobies in school rather than getting a proper education. LOL.

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Amy Kelly

10:51 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Laura... alot of churches world wide (even in America) recognize gay marriage. It is apparent that yours does not and that is okay with me (since I don't belong to your church). However, your specific church doctorine does not reflect the views rest of the country and the whole world.

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Laura Jackson

2:19 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

LOL, Joe. Well, last night's dinner was just some venison (roadkill), since them dang things are everywhere. Might be having ourselves some squirrel tonight. But, coons? Sorry, Joe--but, my husband--Bubba--said he don't eat no coons. Oops. Does that mean my ol' Bubba's a bigot or, worse yet, a racist??? Gee whiz--I hopes not! LOL. And, yeah--sorry Amy that I DO like some "gay" people (GASP!). Maybe because people like Ellen DeGeneres, Jim Parsons, Anderson Cooper, among many others don't rub it in your face. They would not HATE you if your religious beliefs were to be against same-sex marriage. I can love all people, Amy. All I said was that I cannot, nor would I, support same-sex marriage. That's not being a "BIGOT." That's called being a "CHRISTIAN" who follows the word of God. Thanks for your input though.

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Leslie Schildgen

11:07 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Hey Laura: You're all fired up today girlfriend!!! I'm sick of tippy toeing around gay people and being afraid I'm going to offend them. I'm in favor of gay marriage but I'm sick of the dems labeling me as a bigot, hater, etc. I do however agree with the article that is the subject of this blog. I think that the gays are good organizers and will make sure they do damage to states that oppose gay marriage by staging national boycotts and other unAmerican ways to hurt businesses that do not accept gay marriage. Gay America will definately organize itself and buy stuff in states (especially real estate) that is accepting of gay marriage. So. . . I believe that it is an definate economic advantage to a state that is accepting of gay marriage. End of rant. . . thank you all (including the gays) he he

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Laura Jackson

11:09 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Well put, Joe. And, yes--Amy--sorry to inform you; but, "married" people have no more of an "advantage" when it comes to paying/not paying taxes. It used to be that people who were NOT married made more money or had to pay less taxes. In fact, I actually knew of a couple (and NO--I did NOT approve of what they did) who DIVORCED every year (went to the Dominican Republic) just before tax time--to benefit by getting more money back. I did not agree with what that couple did; nor did I support it. But, tax laws have changed. It's pretty much equivalent--it doesn't matter whether you are married or not. You will end up paying about the same in tax dollars. So, there goes your theory. But, seriously Amy--if you and your "partner" choose to get married, then do it. Nobody in here is stopping you from doing whatever you want to do. Whether it is "recognized" by the State should not matter to you and your partner. If you both truly LOVE one another, then why the need to get married? It cannot be for a tax benefit. It's just a piece of paper anyway. And, while you might "believe" you are married to this other woman, whether the State recognizes it as a civil union does not matter. Because, God will NEVER recognize it as a civil union. And, I'm sorry that you don't agree with me; but, God's word says so.

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Tillie Diesel

2:43 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Denying them is a violation of religious freedom (civil and religious marriages are two separate institutions).

Marriage benefits (such as joint ownership, medical decision-making capacity) should be available to all couples.

Homosexuality is an accepted lifestyle nowadays with most evidence strongly supporting biological causation.

Denying these marriages is a form of minority discrimination.

It doesn't hurt society or anyone in particular.

The only thing that should matter in marriage is love.

The number of child adoptions should increase since gay couples cannot pro-create

It encourages people to have strong family values and give up high-risk sexual lifestyles.

The same financial benefits that apply to man-woman marriages apply to same-sex marriages.

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zep

4:56 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Such a boring, miserable female. No wonder you're frustrated and lonely.

Amy Kelly

11:10 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

I'm glad you can love all people. My hope is that someday you will choose to appreciate and support people who have different beliefs than yourself.

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Joe

11:56 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

I hope Amy Kelly "that someday you will choose to appreciate and support people who have different beliefs than yourself."

Laura Jackson

11:18 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Leslie--Hey girl. It doesn't matter. I'm going to continue eating at Chick-Fil-A (when I don't have roadkill for dinner). LOL. And, I don't see the economy "failing" if someone doesn't "accept" gay marriage. The only ones who will damage this economy will be the "gay" people (who are boycotting places such as Chick-Fil-A). And, Kelly--please take your own advice: You said, "My hope is that someday you will choose to appreciate and support people who have different beliefs than yourself." I CAN appreciate them already, Amy. But, support them? No--it goes against my religious beliefs. And, you are putting me down? And, Joe down too? Why? You, yourself, choose to NOT appreciate and support OUR beliefs. In fact, you came right out and told us that we were "intolerant." Well, aren't YOU then also "intolerant" since you cannot "tolerate" us for OUR beliefs? Wow! I don't know how much more I can tolerate of all of this intolerance of people intolerating me. It's absolutely intolerable! Ah---come on--lighten up in here. Laugh a little; love a lot; live how you want to live. :D

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DawnP

12:09 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Laura, you are more than welcome to your religious beliefs, but because of our CONSTITUTION (the First Amendment, maybe you've heard of it?) YOUR religion (nor anyone else's) cannot be the basis for legalized discriminations. If you are really so opposed to the Separation of Church and State, perhaps you should move to a country that wasn't founded on such a radical concept.

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Dadof2

1:41 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Laura & Joe... we are not intolerant of your ability to marry a member of the opposite sex. If we were, then you would have grounds to say that we aren't tolerant of you. I can't speak for everyone, nor do I have any statistical evidence to prove that most people are in favor of heterosexual marriage, but that should not preclude same-sex marriage. I have thoroughly enjoyed reading all these posts: I can't help but think that Laura and Joe are just here to make us all laugh, and seem to be making a mockery of their own position. Could anyone really be that ignorant, blind, and narrow minded? Surely a Supreme Being wouldn't make someone so faulty.

Linda Hoffecker

11:23 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Just for the record; 'I like Ike'. :0)

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Laura Jackson

11:30 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Amy--please do not put down my Church! My Church is a Bible-based church; and my Pastor reads from the scriptures. Again, the Bible IS the Word of God. If your "church" does NOT read from the Bible, then it is not a Bible-based Church. In the last days, Satan will take over the Churches. It looks as though we are in our last days. Look at what's going on around the world. Even our own President wanted to enforce that if any person said the term, "RADICAL ISLAMIST," that he/she would be severely punished, persecuted, or be PUT TO DEATH (just for saying those two words). Really??? Hasn't Obama read the U.S. Constitution? He obviously ignored (or wants to ignore) the first amendment. And, Joe's absolutely right. More Christians are being killed for their beliefs than gays are. But, I am willing to DIE for my Lord and Savior. I will NOT change MY religious beliefs just so I can live. Because, in the end--I WILL live (an eternal life in Heaven at that)! And, did anyone ever wonder why our Prez is SO against the term, "Radical Islamist" or "Radical Muslim" or "Radical Islam"? I know why. But, do you?

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Tillie Diesel

2:48 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Laura, put your foil hat back on, I hear black helicopters outside... hurry

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Casey

12:28 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura - There are many Scripture scholars who believe that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality when it is put in historical and cultural context and read using reason, as Jesus did. There are Christian denominations which fully accept and embrace LGBT individuals as members and as clergy. We are all God's children, and He loves us as we are, gay or straight.

Amy Kelly

11:42 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

My apologies if you misunderstood my point. I am not putting down your Church. I'm simply saying that your Church is not the only Church in the country and/or the world.

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FIFA_archived

11:56 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

The Patch just eats comments sometimes, annoying. Reposting.

Amy, a song which applies in my opinion, I just took a little literary license:

You don't tug on Laura's cape
You don't spit into the bow
You don't pull the mask off that old Strange Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim Crow.

Steve

11:51 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

"And, did anyone ever wonder why our Prez is SO against the term, "Radical Islamist" or "Radical Muslim" or "Radical Islam"?"

How do you know that he is? Have you asked him? Or is it just more Kool Aid Drinker BS?

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Joe

12:23 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

since he ordered the government to not use the terms and you have never heard him or Napolitano or SoS Clinton use those terms then there is no need to ask.
Since the radical Islamist Major Hasan is deemed by the Obama regime as "workplace violence" and not domestic terrorism, it is evident this regime has some sympathy toward radical Islam.

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Joe

12:26 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

"President Barack Obama's advisers will remove religious terms such as "Islamic extremism" from the central document outlining the U.S. national security strategy and will use the rewritten document to emphasize that the United States does not view Muslim nations through the lens of terror, counterterrorism officials said.

The change is a significant shift in the National Security Strategy, a document that previously outlined the Bush Doctrine of preventative war and currently states: The struggle against militant Islamic radicalism is the great ideological conflict of the early years of the 21st century.

The officials described the changes on condition of anonymity because the document still was being written, and the White House would not discuss it. "

Here is a challenge for you Steve. Find any official documents out of this regime that use any of those terms then get back to us.

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Steve

1:52 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Do you have any proof that the President "ordered" anybody not to use the terms?

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Joe

2:07 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Yes I do, I posted it but you didn;t read it.

glenn

12:02 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

After reading these comments it just bothers me how people can just attack each other...

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Mari

12:37 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Totally agree, Glenn. I've given up commenting on any controversial issue (at least most of the time) because even when I think I've entered a rational, thought-out comment that acknowledges the other person's point of view while disagreeing with it, some reactionaries disagree with name-calling and hate-filled bile. I'm not blaming either "side"; it happens on both ends of the spectrum. It just isn't worth the effort anymore.

Nikki Rouse

12:04 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Laura, for a professed Christian, you seem to embrace lies pretty quickly. All this bull about Obama not being a Christian. Seriously? You say that, then criticize him for attending a Christian church. You don't see the errors there? You really demonstrate an outrageous amount of ignorance by repeating the well-disproved rumors and lies surrounding our President..OUR President, yours and mine. We are ALL Americans and a large % of us voted President Obama into office precisely because we love our country and believe he was the best choice. All citizens of this great country are entitled to the same, equal benefits, to pursue life, liberty and happiness. Including marriage as recognized by the government, not by religion. God loves all of us, too, at least that is what I was taught in my church. Your religion does not have to recognize same sex marriage, but the government should, because gay citizens are still American citizens, and there ARE benefits the government gives married citizens that are not equally provided to unmarried citizens. You should be very grateful that there is a wall of separation between church and state in this country. You want that wall brought down? Ok...let's say the religion that wins is Islam...I think you might clamor for that wall once again.

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Joe

12:38 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Nikki, in Islam, your religion is that of your father and Obama's father was a Muslim with 5 wives. If Obama is a Christian, not sure what kind of Christian Rev Wright is, then Obama is, then he is subject to the death penalty.

"A Christian pastor who was arrested in 2009 for renouncing the Islam faith can now be executed at any time without warning, according to an Iranian court.

Youcef Nadarkhani, 34, was found guilty of apostasy by an Iranian lower court two years ago and now has been sentenced to death by hanging.

Fears have been expressed that the execution would be in retaliation to international pressure being put on Iran for its nuclear agenda. Jordan Sekulow, executive director of The American Center for Law and Justice, called the sentence “defiance” by Iran. Sekulow said to Fox News, “The world needs to stand up and say that a man cannot be put to death because of his faith.”"

Amy Kelly

12:05 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

fifa .. you are very correct. As the saying goes: Religion is the opiate of the masses.

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Joe

12:28 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

It is wrong to question peoples sexuality but it seems quite OK to question others "professed Christianity"?

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Laura Jackson

12:40 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Nikki--Obama is NOT a Christian. Go to Youtube and look at some of his interviews. He does NOT believe in a Heaven or a Hell. But, then he says he believes in some sort of "afterlife" and there are MANY pathways to get there. No Christian would ever say such a thing. You apparently have not read the Bible--Obama studied the Quran in Jakarta. That's why he believes there are many pathways to Heaven. John 3:16!!! As for FIFA and Sam, you must be "gay," so you are excused. However, God will not excuse any sexual immorality--you can bet on that! Oh--that's right. Sorry, FIFA--you did tell us you did not believe in a GOD. So, God does not exist? Who created you??? Who created the Earth, all of the planets, the Heavens, the Stars, the Sun, the Moon, the trees, all plant life, etc., etc. I suppose you believe "mother nature" created everything. And, Sam--it's okay you call me "dumb." I am not insulted by that. At least, I KNOW I'm going to Heaven when I die. Do you know where YOU are going???

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FIFA_archived

1:36 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Your god does not exist in my opinion, you are correct. You claim there is a god, your claim requires extraordinary evidence/proof of that claim, you have none. Your god is apparently an impotent god as well with all the pain and suffering in this world that goes unchecked.

A sperm and an egg created me, not a god. It is called science. Humans are created with a sperm and an egg, that is a fact. People don't magically poof and then appear. You may believe in a talking snake, I don't.

What or who created your god? Oh, always has been here, always will. I don't buy what you and your church are selling, sorry.

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FIFA_archived

1:39 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

PS - I am not "gay", not that it matters. I am one of those many "straight" people that believe in equal rights as guaranteed by the Constitution of the USA. You don't.

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Joe

2:03 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

"your claim requires extraordinary evidence/proof of that claim"

It requires nothing at all from her. All it requires is her faith. She nor anyone else needs to provide you with anything regarding her faith.
If you believe humans, in all their complexity, with all the individual parts that work so well together, with the thinking brains we have, if you believe all that was just some random event, then you have the right to believe such. Most do not. Most believe in a creator, a creator which uses different names by different faiths.

I personally cannot fathom that we were created by some random events. We are too complicated physically for that. Einstein once said "God does not play dice with the universe" and I believe him.

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FIFA_archived

2:09 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Your inability to fathom something has nothing to do with facts. You will accept religion on faith, but everything else you question demanding proof? Perhaps the most important thing in your or her life you are willing to accept on faith. Interesting.

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Tillie Diesel

2:54 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

"FIFA--you did tell us you did not believe in a GOD. So, God does not exist? Who created you???"

ME, ME Pick ME... His mother and father created him when they had sex! Do I win the prize? or do we still believe in the stork delivering babies? Boy oh boy Laura did your parents do a job on you. (shaking my head in disbelief)

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Bryan P. Sears

8:34 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Arbutus Town Crier

6:26 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

FIFA who created science? Humans are unlocking the knowledge of the creator. Why is it so complex? why do you use 10% of your brain? All the answers are in front of everyone's eyes every day math & music is universal language to all humans, Doh! you have every right to believe as you do. Oh there is a difference between god and GOD.and if you studied cultures and other religions you would know better. Who is your God? or is he your god? You will never understand one thing A woman creates miracles everyday giving birth. Some rather stay in there box and not seek knowledge some seek knowledge as you but stop and make a final conclusion. One who continues to break out of the box and and gain knowledge is a lifetime journey. spiritual has many roads, Knowledge is seeking the truth Freely by open mind and be free understand yourself not by any human influence. To me as most believe in a creator or whatever name you give this entity of life force. One Nation under God we are equal. it don't matter if you go thru JC and no man/woman Nobody should tell your way is wrong in your beliefs. If your pagan sorry to tell you Our Nation Was built on pagan concept but with a deity. we are all right, why we have so many religions in America? We all believe in God. the word God is generic anyhow

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zep

4:58 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Hmmmm... let's see. your sty with the sow who squoze you out?

Laura Jackson

12:44 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

And, thanks Joe. I will be seeing you in Heaven one day. I can tell! So much for the rest in here (who ARE bigoted towards those who oppose gay marriage and have heard the cruel and ignorant speeches made by Rev. Wright and also Obama--who said, if it were up to him, he would completely REVISE the Bible). To add or delete from the Bible is an abomination to God. So, no--Mr. President (but not for long, hopefully), you cannot REVISE the Bible (to suit YOUR likings). Even a group of Atheists are now filing a lawsuit because they want the Cross removed from Ground Zero--they claim it makes them physically and mentally sick. I suppose it does--seeing that they do not have the Spirit of Jesus living within them; but that of the Devil.

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Joe

1:23 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

I'm not sure I will see you there Laura. I have been at times in my life not worthy of that final resting place.

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zep

4:59 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

weeeee weee weee weee weeeee

Laura Jackson

12:49 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

And Nikki--you are forgetting that Obama, himself, was AGAINST gay marriage!!! Did you forget that??? Again--look at his well-known interviews on Youtube. He is speaking HIMSELF. These are not lies. The ONLY reason he is not against gay marriage anymore is because he needs ALL the votes he can possibly get to win this election. So, yeah--he only wants YOUR vote--that of the "gay" population. I swear--he'd do ANYTHING or say ANYTHING to win. How about the Black Panthers threatening people in New York if they did NOT vote for Obama? Do you think that was right? What if the KKK threatened people if they did not vote for Romney?? Same scenario. I am NOT a bigot. And, Sam--sorry to inform you; but, before I got married, I dated ALL men (black as well as white).

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Tim

1:14 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Laura: Although I agree with your statement that Obama would say anything or do anything to win, you can't possibly believe Romney is every bit the same. Romney's worse. He's flipped on pretty much every major social or economic issue over his 'career'.

It's a systemic issue of politics today. Integrity only when convenient.

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Joe

1:40 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

"He's flipped" No no no! As Obama on homosexual marriage, Romney has "evolved" his opinions.

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Tillie Diesel

3:00 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

The Christian Right is the new KKK. Lies after lies spread by fauxnews...

For the last time Laura, YOU are a bigot.

Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".[1] Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including age, disability, dissension from popular opinions, economic status, ethnicity, gender identity, language, nationality, personal habits, political alignment, race, sex, species, or sexual orientation.

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zep

4:59 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Oh, stop- my sides are SPLITTING!!!!

Joe

1:22 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Obama was interviewed on ABC years ago when he said this “you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith…“ The interviewer had to correct him.

NO ONE misspeaks about their long held religion! No one! Do you know any Catholic who has mistaken and said "my Jewish faith"? That was not a misspeak, slip of the tongue or a mistake. It was truth.

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Steve

1:48 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Post a clip of him saying that.

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Joe

1:56 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

It is all over youtube dude! It was with Stephanopolis on ABC.

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jag

2:14 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Joe, you are beyond dumb. What a sheep. You just believe whatever some right wing propaganda machine tells you to believe, don't you? Beyond pathetic.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslimfaith.asp

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Joe

3:24 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

No jagoff, i trust my ears not some over the top rabid fool like yourself or snopes. My hearing is fine and I know what he said. Born to a Muslim makes you a Muslim.

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jag

3:38 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Right, Joe. The whole world is wrong and you're right. That's certainly not the definition of delusional (hint: yes, it is).

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Joe

3:52 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

jagoff Dude, chill. Why are your posts always over the top and psycho sounding?

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FIFA_archived

4:25 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Frank, you are a copy cat, I need more letter separation to translate!!

Steve

1:22 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

"Hasn't Obama read the U.S. Constitution?"

He specialized in Constitutional Law at Harvard Law School.

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Joe

1:42 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

He failed that course as we all know. See the 40+ lawsuits against him for his violations of the US Constitution.

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Steve

1:48 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

He didn't fail any courses. 40+ lawsuits by crackpots like Orly Taitz and that other wingnut Berg

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Joe

1:56 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Steve, I was speaking of the 40+ lawsuits regarding his violation of the US Constitution in his ObamaCare. those are still pending. His blatant violations means he flunked those classes or just simply does not care about the law. He has shown he has that propensity.

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Steve

1:59 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

You don't graduate from Harvard by flunking Constitutional Law.

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Joe

2:09 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Steve, please try to keep up. The 40+ lawsuits are about the individual mandate that is a tax. It is about the destroying of the 1st Amendment and religious freedom.

As for graduating Harvard? Show us his records and his applications to colleges.
One does not graduate Princeton as a dummy either do they?

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Joe

2:10 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

The 40+ lawsuits are about NOT the individual mandate ....

Leslie Schildgen

1:25 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Hey Laura: Did you see Vi the last time you went to Walmart?

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Geepay

1:36 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Sounds like Laura is going to end up the subject of some "Breaking News" one day. Whew!

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jag

2:11 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

"An area that tends to welcome people of different backgrounds is a place that will thrive."

Duh. This is like writing a post about how the sky is blue.

What's with all these junk comments about Obama not being a Christian, etc.? Oh well, moving on....

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Laura Jackson

2:40 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Golly gee--Tillie is the ANGRY one in here; as are the others who oppose the fact that I AM a Christian that walks with the Lord and OPPOSES gay marriage! And, Amy stated that she attends a "different" church and talked about Obama attending church. Well, like Joyce Meyer always says, "Sitting in Church does not make you a Christian any more than sitting in your garage makes you a car." ANYONE can go to Church. Apparently, some of you "attend" Church, call yourselves "Christians," but do NOT follow the word of God or walk in His ways. For that, I feel sorry for you. And, FIFA--poor FIFA--you say God does NOT exist and that a sperm and egg created you? Well, explain how were Adam and Eve (the FIRST humans on Earth) created? Let me guess--they "magically" appeared? I feel so sorry for you. God is VERY real. Heaven is VERY real. And, Hell is VERY real. If you do not know that God breathed life into you, and you do not accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you WILL surely be put to death. Again, Obama was on the Oprah show (look it up on Youtube) saying that if we are all "nice" people and live by the "golden rule," we will go "somewhere" after we die. But, that's just NOT true. It is by the Grace of God, believing that Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for your sins, by the shedding of His blood for you, confessing that with YOUR mouth that will get you into Heaven. As Jesus said, "No one comes to the Father except by ME." That includes you, FIFA.

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FIFA_archived

2:51 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

It appears to me that you are the one that believes in Poof a magical Adam and Eve. I have no such belief, as there was no Adam and Eve.

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Amy Kelly

2:56 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Laura have you ever heard this saying: Religion is like a big fart.. you think your's doesn't smell but everyone else's stinks... think about it.. before you cast the first stone.. what would Jesus do?

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Joe

3:21 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Tillie may be the next one we read about carrying Chick Fil A sandwiches in her backpack shooting up some vile hateful bigots who support traditional families and marriage.

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zep

5:01 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

soooooo-EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

Laura Jackson

2:42 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Oh--Leslie--no--to answer your question. Haven't seen Vi at Walmart. Apparently, Cal stopped looking for the "alleged" kidnapper (because he's too busy advertising his new burgers and auctioning off his vehicle). LOL.

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Laura Jackson

2:47 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

And dear Tillie--what's with the, "Your god is not my God"? There is ONLY ONE GOD! I have news for you. And, I do NOT JUDGE GOD. I read the Bible--and, yes--there's only ONE Bible, too! OMG. I suppose you didn't know that. As for God creating "gay" people, that's not true. He creates ALL people. He gives ALL people FREE WILL to do what they choose to do with their lives. However, God does NOT condone homosexuality. Now, go and pick up a Bible and look at the verse I suggested: 1 Corinthians 6-9. There, it specifically mentions HOMOSEXUALITY. And, I just might make "breaking news." After the Rapture occurs, I will be caught in the air to be with the Lord (while, sadly, you will be left behind). Then, and only then (during the 7 HORRIBLE YEARS OF TRIBULATION) will you hear the "breaking news" of the Lord's Second Coming. Good luck to you!

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FIFA_archived

2:56 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

I have a bridge to sell you as well.

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Tillie Diesel

3:43 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

You are the worst kind of person out there. You are everything GOD is against. I feel sorry for you. I will pray that your trip to hell is speedy. You do realize that YOU are turning people away from GOD by spreading your hate hiding behind the bible. I am here to tell you that YOU are the problem and you can answer to god as to why you drove people away from him. And bring some lotion; I hear it is very hot where you are going. Have fun in hell lady, I'll be in Heaven with the rest of the Angels. :-)

Laura Jackson

2:53 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Joe--it's pointless trying to talk to anyone in here. They don't "tolerate" people who cannot accept same-sex marriage. So, THEY are the "bigots" in here! Seriously. And, as for those who think Obama is so great--how will you feel when you are TAXED an ABORTION SURCHARGE? I do not believe in, nor agree with ABORTION. So, why should I have to be taxed and PAY for YOU who want to abort your babies (the killing of innocent children)? I also do not like the fact that my husband and I work hard; while Obama wants to continue taking care of those who choose NOT to work, collect food stamps and welfare, continue having babies, get free healthcare for themselves and their children, and free diapers! I suppose only those that benefit from the "FREE" things in life are the ones who will choose to re-elect this man--the man who promised us HOPE AND CHANGE. Well--we certainly DID get "CHANGE." The economy sucks! And, he did give us HOPE. I certainly HOPE we get a new President (who will help the working class citizen and not tax us any further to pay for the scum who are lazy and don't want to work).

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Tillie Diesel

3:19 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

“Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD” (Leviticus 19:28)

Do you blog on and on about how your god says people with tattoos are going to hell? Why not? Why not save them? Why pick on the gays?

With all the tatttoo joints on Rt40 we have a lot of people going to hell. Laura, does your hubby have a tattoo?

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Tillie Diesel

3:22 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Laura - once again educate yourself on welfare.

About $59 billion is spent on traditional social welfare programs. $92 billion is spent on corporate subsidies. So, the government spent 50% more on corporate welfare than it did on food stamps and housing assistance in 2006.

Obama is fixing this. Romney wants to bring corp welfare back. jeez laura...

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zep

5:02 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Let's pitch in and get her a nice BIG TOY.

Laura Jackson

2:55 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

I think my husband and I will go to Chick-Fil-A for dinner tonight. Oh no--Joe--I think that statement, alone, will anger quite a few people in here! LOL. No CHICKEN for the "gay" people. The men like their "hotdogs" and the women like their "fish." But, absolutely--NO CHICKEN. LOL.

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Joe

3:19 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

YOU BIGOT! Eating HATE CHICKEN! Maybe you could bring back a sandwich or two of hate chicken for Tillie, she seems to hate a bit.

Laura Jackson

3:01 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

And, Amy--you asked WHAT WOULD JESUS DO??? Think about THAT one. Jesus was NOT gay. In fact, he's the ONLY person to have NEVER sinned. And, again--I will repeat myself--READ YOUR BIBLE--if you even have one. Jesus, Himself, despises those who are sexually immoral and despises homosexuality. It is only if one repents for his/her sins and turns away from their wicked ways will he/she be saved. Jesus only forgave the "prostitute" because she REPENTED and asked for forgiveness. He then told her, "GO AND SIN NO MORE." And, so--if you KNOW homosexuality is a sin (and it is), and you CONTINUE to sin, how do you expect to be forgiven? Why not ask Jesus right now? Ask Him if what you're doing is okay? Better yet, ask your Pastor if homosexuality is a sin against God. Or, are you afraid to hear the answer?

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Amy Kelly

3:17 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Hello Jesus.. hold on Laura.. he's telling me something.. He says "Don't eat Fried Chicken its bad for you and don't worry I love everyone" then he says " please tell Laura to be nice and let go of the anger before she has a heart attack and a gay paramedic has to save her"... phew.. glad I got that over with

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Tillie Diesel

3:25 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Please provide proof since you know the bible so well. Where does it say "Jesus, Himself, despises those who are sexually immoral and despises homosexuality." PLease just one sentence where Jesus and homosexuality are mentioned together. Just one is all I ask. So what do you think about tattoos and those who have them?

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Stacey

2:30 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Jesus despises no one. He may abhor an action, but He despises no one, for we are all created in the image of His Father.

Must have skipped that chapter of her book....

Laura Jackson

3:06 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Tillie said, """FIFA--you did tell us you did not believe in a GOD. So, God does not exist? Who created you???" ME, ME Pick ME... His mother and father created him when they had sex! Do I win the prize? or do we still believe in the stork delivering babies? Boy oh boy Laura did your parents do a job on you. (shaking my head in disbelief)"

So, you say there is NO GOD either??? And, you are shaking YOUR head in disbelief? No--I am shaking MY head in disbelief. God created EVERYONE and EVERYTHING (including YOUR parents and FIFA's parents). Did YOU create Adam and Eve? No--you did not. I am so sick of the "Atheists" in here; it's truly sad. I even read where the Atheists are wasting Federal funds by filing a lawsuit because they want the Cross removed from Ground Zero. Really? It's making them physically and emotionally sick? It's okay though. At least, people like Joe and me will not have to "deal" with any "Atheists" up in Heaven. And, that is TRULY a blessing!

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FIFA_archived

3:27 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Laura, you are angry. Don't like someone questioning your sacred beliefs do you? Your pathetic justifications are symptomatic that the education system has failed you. You are the one that believes Adam and Eve were brought to ths planet by your "stork". Amuse me some more, although laughing at those challenged like you is not nice,

Give me some more of your religion, how old is this planet and universe? Just asking, Go ahead and embarrass yourself some more.

About the only you appear to be qualified to do is press the caps lock key. You are an example of when birth control should be used more often. Oh, that's right, you would have been born anyway.

Amy Kelly

3:10 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

What if Jesus is gay? hangs out with 12 guys? spends alot time with his mom...hmm..liked to travel a lot...amazing culinary skills turning water into wine... never married..

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Laura Jackson

3:13 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Tillie--you also said the "gay" people aren't hurting anyone??? How naive are you? They are spreading HIV!!! Where do you think it came from? Yes, it started in Western Africa and was brought here. But, the AIDS epidemic is from homosexuals. Why do you think the CDC has said it is transmitted through blood and SEXUALLY? So, please do not be so naive as to say they are not hurting anyone. Only if they've only been with ONE partner for their entire lives and stay that way! But, I saw a man on television who ADMITTED that he PURPOSELY had sex with over 500 people (AFTER HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH AIDS). He KNEW he had AIDS and was going to die. Therefore, what gave this man the "right" to have unprotected sex with over 500 people? And, NONE of them knew this man had AIDS! Think of THOSE 500 people and how many partners they've had over the years. It's SICK and SAD to think of all of the people who will contract the AIDS virus (just because of that ONE sick-minded human being)! Shame on him! And, shame on you for thinking, "they're not hurting anybody." Tsk, tsk.

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Tillie Diesel

3:54 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

"Yes, it started in Western Africa and was brought here. But, the AIDS epidemic is from homosexuals. " Wow, so the proof that AIDS came from African’s eating tainted primate meat is not true because YOU said so. Unfreaking believable that there are people this dumb. And they are allowed to breed. No wonder kids can't read or add anymore.
I saw a lady on TV holding a bible and telling people that she had AIDS from a blood transfusion and wanted people to turn to god so she sleep with 1000 men hoping they would spread AIDS to the straight community so she could preach to people about what a loving god she believed in and how everyone else beliefs were just not true, only her beliefs were true. This is true, I saw it on TV!

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Casey

12:34 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Gays are not the only people with AIDS. A recent CDC study showed that African Americans and Hispanics/Latinos are also disproportionately affected by HIV and AIDS. To say that all gays are spreading AIDS is just not true.

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zep

5:03 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

You just bored me off the page you redundant vegetable. Go get laid by whatever will have you.

Skip727

3:28 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

This has been a most entertaining thread. But the bottom line is you are either for gay marriage or against it. The reason is important only to ones self. Belittling other posters and straying far from the subject of the thread actually does very little to open a line of dialogue. Being adversarial accomplishes nothing but angering people and once that happens one can have no intelligent discussion. Just saying.

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JD1

4:23 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Just agreeing - well said Skip!

Laura Jackson

3:28 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Joe--I think I figured it out. Amy and Tillie are "lovers" or must be. And, Amy said the following: "What if Jesus is gay? hangs out with 12 guys? spends alot time with his mom...hmm..liked to travel a lot...amazing culinary skills turning water into wine... never married.."

Are THOSE words that of a "CHRISTIAN"? Call Jesus "gay"??? Man--you are truly sick. And, you can call me all the names you care to; it doesn't bother me in the least. Jesus said, "Anyone who is persecuted for MY namesake shall surely be put to DEATH." So, yep--you are all going to die a horrible death in a fiery pit of Hell. And, no--to answer your question--my husband and I (along with our three children who are grown) do NOT have any tattoos. However, there are SOME "sins" which are worse than others. I'm sorry to inform you of that. If you think ALL sin is the same, you are wrong. So, in YOUR eyes, someone who gets a tattoo on his/her body is just as bad as two men or two women having sex with each other? I also suppose that you think "murdering" people is also okay with God??? Never mind. I'm SURE that you do. After all, you've just committed the WORST sin I have EVER HEARD OF--SAYING THAT JESUS WAS GAY! I cannot wait until I see you "beneath" me (as Christians will get to see their enemies suffer) and watch the Lord personally cut out your tongue! May God have mercy on that pathetic soul of yours!

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jag

3:35 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Wow, normally I just laugh at the crazies, but this woman is truly disturbed. How sad.

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FIFA_archived

3:36 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Quite simply put, if there was a god that believes the way you do, I would no part of him/her. Your beliefs and behaviors on here simply disgust me and many other posters. Your mouth is foul and you are a homophobic bigot. You are an Old Testament queen. Congratulations.

Adios

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FIFA_archived

3:48 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

@jag, I have to stop laughing, my sides hurt. To imagine a bigoted moron like this has 3 children to continue the gene pool is bad news for the human race. Imagine marrying one this crazy? Looney tunes.

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Tillie Diesel

3:59 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Telling people they are going to go to hell because they love someone is "very christian" of you Laura.

You are sick Laura. The only good thing is that old people like you are the minority and will be leaving planet earth soon. Rejoice, this is a good thing, you will be with your God.

If sex is so bad, why does it feel so good Laura? Well, you may not thing so. Try some lube next time.

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FIFA_archived

4:02 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Frank, take over for awhile, this is one of the dumbest persons I have ever read. Even Joe has left the scene of this lobotomy. This is what happens when you are fed lead paint as a kid.

Laura Jackson

3:35 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

To answer your question about how old this Earth is, FIFA--I'm so sorry that you missed the speech made by Dr. David Jeremiah. He said, "God created Adam and Eve as ADULTS. He could have created them as infants; but, He chose to make them ADULTS. Therefore, if he sent people here (already AGED), who's to say HOW OLD this Earth truly is? Even Scientists have no clue. For all they know, God created this Earth PRE-AGED (as He did with Adam and Eve). I'm sorry, FIFA, that you don't believe in Adam and Eve either. I wonder how this world got here. I know you believe in the Big Bang Theory. While YOU may have "evolved" from an "ape," I did not. Now--please walk upright, will you? That is, if you are further along in the evolutionary chart. LOL. And, no people--you do not KNOW me. I do not say anything that has NOT been said by JESUS (or quoted from the Bible). Therefore, if you call me a "bigot," feel free. However, I quoted the Bible. Therefore, you are calling Jesus a "bigot" as well. And, how sad that will be for YOU come Judgment Day. I'm so very glad I'm not in any of YOUR shoes. Bless you, Joe--as you have "common sense" and can recognize this truly "hateful" individuals. I suppose since they "believe" they were born "gay" and didn't have a choice in the matter, that's why they are such "angry" individuals. It's so sad that they don't realize they DO have a choice. And, they CAN still be saved. But, it has to be THEIR choice. So sad.

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FIFA_archived

3:40 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Oh, Dr. David Jeremiah was present at their birth. Just poof. Scientists have down to around 4.3 billion years old. A pre-aged world, wow. You are so smart. Go read a science book.

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glenn

3:46 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

As a christian i really would expect kinder words from you

Steve

3:47 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Sounds like somebody needs to take a trip on Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride.....

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FIFA_archived

3:55 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Sounds like a big sex hang up to me. Wonder how she knows how lesbians have sex? Been watching some no-no's on the Internet maybe or DVDs? Or is it magazines she prefers? Bought a few toys for herself maybe?

Laura Jackson

3:49 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Now, Tillie--if it will "help" you psychologically and not be so mean and hateful in here, please go and get your girlfriend and have your immoral sex with her. Then (and only then) should you come back onto this site. Because, you are one very spiteful, mean, hateful gay bigot! It's not "gay" people I despise; it's THEIR behavior--such as yours and Amy (spewing hatred of Jesus and calling Him gay). I pray for your souls. I truly do. But, after THAT statement, I have no idea WHAT God will do to you.

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Laura Jackson

3:55 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

And, FIFA--you make fun of the fact I am married. Well, at least, I AM married. And, I am married LEGALLY, too. My marriage is a union between myself and a man (not only recognized by the State, but especially by GOD). So, I can only assume you are jealous that you and your boyfriend cannot marry. So very sorry about that. You CAN get married. But, actually, nobody will care. When people say that "marriage is a give and take situation," they are NOT referring to giving and taking another man's body part into YOURS! Hopefully, you will not contract AIDS nor die a slow, antagonizing death. Then again, since you ARE an Atheist, personally, I really do not care if you do or not.

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Laura Jackson

4:04 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Tillie--YOU are the one who will burn in Hell; not me. YOU admitted God doesn't exist. Yet, you quote the Bible. You AND AMY stated that Jesus was gay! Both of you are sick individuals. So, if you think for one second you will make it into Heaven, better guess again. Now, go and take your "dildo" or whatever you and you girlfriend are into and do whatever. God doesn't care anymore about you at this point, I'm sure. You've already blown it by saying His Son is gay. The Bible says to turn away from the WICKED. And, YOU and your "girlfriend" are definitely WICKED. I figure the only people that "turn" gay are those that are so ugly that no man would ever think about touching them with a ten-foot pole. And, so, I'm so sorry that happened to you. LOL. Can I pick you and your girlfriend up some CHICKEN from Chick-Fil-A tonight? I'm going there with my CHRISTIAN (Bible, Jesus-loving CHRISTIAN) husband. We WALK WITH THE LORD in HIS ways--Christians do NOT follow the wicked ways of THIS world. But, then again--I wouldn't expect an Atheist to know anything about the Bible or what Jesus would or would NOT do. Would Jesus JUDGE you? Absolutely! And, He WILL. Don't you worry. Actually, YOU SHOULD WORRY. I'm sorry also that your parents obviously screwed you up so badly that you believe being gay is the ONLY way to live and to BASH those who follow JESUS and HIS words (NOT MINE). That's ALL you've done in here. Don't go away mad. LOL. Just go away!

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Laura Jackson

4:11 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Poor, poor FIFA. You said: "Oh, Dr. David Jeremiah was present at their birth. Just poof. Scientists have down to around 4.3 billion years old. A pre-aged world, wow. You are so smart. Go read a science book."

Ever wonder WHY they call it SCIENCE-FICTION???? And, NOT SCIENCE-NON-FICTION??? That's because all of this "so-called" Science is just that--FICTION! Oh--I apologize. You may not know that FICTION means UNTRUE. Non-fiction is the truth. You're definitely "out there." And, one day, you'll definitely be "down there." Unfortunately, the "down there" lasts for an ETERNITY! I honestly cannot wait to see (with my Lord) all of you, who have called me names, especially called JESUS GAY, crying, screaming, and begging God for His forgiveness for what you have said about His one and only Son. It will be my pleasure to see what God does about that. :D

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Tillie Diesel

5:17 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

The fact that you don't believe in science means that you will never go to a hospital. Oh but you will when you need it. Truth wins out in the end. You are just a dumb liar.

Laura Jackson

4:14 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

FIFA--I really do NOT know how lesbians have sex. I am not "naive" though. Word gets around. So, yeah--while I may know things; I really do not care to "dwell" on what lesbians do with each other. As they say on Jersey Shore, Les bee honest here!

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Bryan P. Sears

8:44 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Steve

4:17 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

David Jeremiah isn't a real Doctor. He is a scheister.

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FIFA_archived

4:26 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Plus he is old if he was there for Adam and Eve.

Laura Jackson

4:19 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Honestly, I cannot believe just how many people in here are GAY! All I can say is this: Apparently, since none of you believe in God or walk in His ways, I can assume you will all be together in Hell. However, you may not care to engage in any sexual behavior in Hell (since it is supposedly VERY hot down there). The crying, screaming, agonizing pain! Whew!!! Thank you, Lord, for my salvation. Have mercy on these "ignorant" people, will you? Forgive them; they know not what they do! Actually, I believe they DO know what they are doing; therefore, it is up to YOU what you do about each of them. But, I trust in you God and will continue to follow you.

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FIFA_archived

4:23 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Hell is "down there", just where is that. Can my GPS find it?

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Corbin Dallas Multipass

4:26 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

It's not nice to call Australia hell.

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FIFA_archived

5:12 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

No, no, no, it is clearly Afghanistan.

Many people have been sent there by many countries and lots of them don't come back. And those that do come back get sent again. It is time to get the heck out of Hell.

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OldHarfordCounty

5:22 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

1 Cor 13:4-7 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Laura: Today you failed at this. Boastful, proud and self-seeking, angry and rude. Tomorrow, you should try again. Love everyone where is, as is. Only then can you try and spread the Word of Christ. Love first.

JD1

4:28 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

A good Friday happy hour is recommended for all - that's where I'm headed! Then - it's off to the confessional tomorrow afternoon to visit my friend - the gay priest : )

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Laura Jackson

4:29 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Don't worry, FIFA. You won't need your GPS. God will definitely show you the way PERSONALLY. Of course, you don't believe in God. Do you? So sad. So very, very sad. And, for those who have "put me down" for what I said, remember--I quoted the words of JESUS. So, you put Him down; not me. LOL. Well, I'm going out to dinner soon with my wonderful, loving, Christian husband. Yes, we are legally married and married in the eyes of God. How wonderful. FIFA--perhaps your boyfriend will marry you one day. Who knows? Good luck with that. :D

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8:46 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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JD1

4:36 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Laura - you would be alot more credible without the cutting remarks. Most of my Christian, Muslim, and Buddhist pals know how to take the "high road" :D

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JD1

4:37 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Now I'm going to HH D--{

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Joe

4:42 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

FIFI, why are 99% of your comments personal attacks on posters and not debate of the comments made? Is your self esteem that low that you need to make those comments to make yourself feel better about yourself?
"You may love your wife - you may lose your family
You may lose you mind - just to keep your sanity
But the people who don't fit
Get the only fun they get
From people puttin' people down
People puttin' people down

People that are glad - sometimes they wear a smile
And people without dreams they walk the extra mile
But all the people who don't fit
Get the only fun they get
From people puttin' people down
People puttin' people dwn
From people puttin' people down
People puttin' people down

So cold, sometimes it gets so cold "

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FIFA_archived

4:55 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Joe, I have been polite to you all day, say it ain't so.

Laura deserves ridicule for her profane and vile comments about Amy that was done without provocation. Ridicule is much different than the personal attack you did on Tillie in response to his post. You wrote, "No you won;t see me there since I am done with your wife in the book store back behind the curtain where you frequent." in reply to his personal attack.

I will always ridicule people like Laura, she needs to be brought out in the light. I don't care she says she is a Christian, in my limited understanding of the word, she is not a good one.

Laura Jackson

5:06 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

FIFA--I made vile comments about AMY without PROVOCATION??? You are SO wrong!!! When SHE puts down MY Jesus and says He is GAY, she has gone too far! You are an Atheist; so you know NOTHING about Christianity OR the Bible. As I have said, you may "ridicule" ME all you want; but, when Jesus is PERSECUTED, I will stand up for Him! So, do not think Amy has done nothing to "attack" me. She has ATTACKED EVERY PERSON in here who IS a "Christian" (by saying that Jesus was GAY)! She is sick and needs professional help. You, on the other hand, just need some simple guidance (as I feel nobody brought you up to have faith in anything)--which is WHY you are an Atheist. Just to note: If you are an "Atheist," you STILL believe in something. You believe in "nothing." And, believe in nothing; and that's exactly what you will get in life. Nothing. And, do not "attack" Joe for having a "sense of humor" about what Tillie wrote. First of all, Tillie is gay and admitted so; and Tillie is a woman; not a man. So, get it "straight." Oh--sorry--I guess on a "gay" site such as this, I am being politically incorrect by using the word, "straight." So sad that everyone takes everything so seriously. Get a sense of humor, FIFA (along with a copy of the Bible). It might do you a world of good.

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FIFA_archived

5:09 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

People can read what you wrote and judge for themselves.

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Arbutus Town Crier

7:45 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

their not Atheist he has instructions he has to follow to J Coadjutors

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FIFA_archived

7:54 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

You must have been at Happy Hour with Lorna for too long, cut off I hope?

Laura Jackson

1:02 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

But, I can say this: God has "blessed" me. I am the luckiest woman in the world. I have Jesus Christ in my life, I have a wonderful husband, three beautiful children (all grown, graduated from college and working)--all of whom are CHRISTIAN and none of whom are gay. So, yes--I'm extremely blessed. Oh yeah--I'm also 44 years YOUNG (not old), and have a better body now than I did when I was in my 20's. So, thank you, God! God made me beautiful inside and out. You may all say I'm "ugly" on the inside (but, that's because you don't know Jesus) and you do not LIKE Jesus. Jesus lives on the inside of me; and I'm eternally grateful to have a personal relationship with Him. I LOVE THE LORD, and I'M PROUD TO SAY IT, TOO! So, I care NOT what any of you do, whether you are gay or not, who you sleep with or don't sleep with, etc., etc. YOU will HAVE to stand BEFORE GOD come Judgment Day. I am NOT judging you; however, God will! Pray for FIFA--he admitted there was NO GOD. And, pray for Amy who was so disgusting to call herself a CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN and yet had the nerve to say JESUS WAS GAY. Pray for HER! Both need serious professional help!

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Laura Jackson

1:21 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

And, Frank--what does "Global warming" have to do with my religious beliefs that I oppose same-sex marriage? Nothing. Try smoking some more pot or something. You're not making ANY sense here. Just because I am a Conservative Republican does not mean I don't believe in Global warming. There's your "stupidity" coming into play now. You stereotype all Republicans. Being Republican has nothing to do with my opposition of gay marriage. My RELIGION has EVERYTHING to do with my opposition of gay marriage. Please learn to read. Okay? And, FIFA--I'm so sorry that you could not ever get a date in middle school. Perhaps if you talked to a girl back then, you would have liked one. You MADE the choice to be "gay." God did not make you "gay" (contrary to your thoughts). As for Frank, I have a feeling I know who you really are. And, come on--your name is NOT "Frank." Stop pretending to be someone else. I KNOW your writing style. I KNOW from other forums how you speak. Therefore, I KNOW who you really are. You're just upset with me because I called you out on the whole "Christian" thing. You said you lived for the Lord. But, you're NOT. In fact, Christians live IN this world but are not OF this world. If you are living to please others in THIS world, then you're wrong. Unlike most of you in here, I'm not out to win the "popularity" contest. That's what ALL of you are attempting to do. Hooray for you. But, I will stand by God and do HIS will; not YOURS. Thanks.

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DawnP

12:29 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Perhaps Frank's comments were based on your post above where you claim that ALL science is "fiction." (Friday, 8/17, 4:11pm.)

Laura Jackson

1:27 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

I have a life, Frank. And, yeah--since my children are grown and out on their own, my hubby and I just got home for the evening. So, I thought I'd check before bed how many other ignorant gay people came on to bash me and Jesus. I'm not just defending my religious beliefs; I'm here to defend JESUS! Why? Too late for you, FRANK (although I really know who you are--and you're a woman)? Does your Mommy know you are up? Or, your female "partner"??? LOL.

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Laura Jackson

1:30 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

Oh--sorry Les (I mean, Frank). How sad that you had nothing better to do than to sit and count EVERY word I typed out? For the record, 272 words (according to you) takes me less than 3 minutes. I can type over a hundred words per minute. Just another one of God's blessings, I suppose. LOL. Good night, Les. :D

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Laura Jackson

1:36 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

And, OldHarford--sorry; but, God does not allow you to just pick and choose ONE Bible verse. I know you want to be "gay" and have God accept you and allow you into Heaven. But, you MUST repent and never sin again. That's God's words--not mine. If you have a problem with homosexuality being a sin, don't complain to me. Complain to God. Okay? Good night, now. And, read the WHOLE Bible--not just ONE verse about love. Also--when God talks about MARRIAGE in the Bible, He specifically says HE/SHE and HIM/HER. He does not say ANYWHERE in the Bible HE/HE and SHE/SHE and HIM/HIM and HER/HER. So, please do not preach about the Bible (when you clearly have been misguided by your Church to think as the world does and that homosexuality is perfectly fine). It is not. Again--complain to God (when you see Him). You WILL be guaranteed to see Him one day. After all, I did not have anything to do with the writing of the Bible. The entire Bible is ALL WORDS OF GOD.

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DawnP

12:43 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Oh, so you don't pick and choose which parts of the Bible you take literally? So I guess you don't eat shellfish? (Leviticus 11:10) Or pork? (Leviticus 11:8) What about wearing fabric blends? (Leviticus 19:19) Do you think it's okay to own slaves, as long as they are from neighboring nations? (Leviticus 25:44) It's already clear that you don't care much about the "love thy neighbor" or "judge not" parts of the Bible...

Laura Jackson

9:32 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

I do not worry; nor do I care what others think of ME in here, Arbutus Town Crier. It's perfectly fine. They are simply "ignorant" because they insist they are the only people who are right and that God does not exist and even so bold as to say that Jesus was gay. This shows their ignorance in more than one way. I stated MY beliefs. That's how all of this started. Then, the Atheists and even the "Catholics" (which I am shocked) told me the Bible NEVER stated that marriage HAD to be between a Man and a Woman! Here's the verse, people: You ALL asked for PROOF that the Bible indicated this:

In fact, Jesus reinforced this permanence in Matthew 19:4-6.....

"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

See that? MALE AND FEMALE! Again--WORDS FROM GOD, HIMSELF!

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Laura Jackson

9:41 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

OldHarfordCounty: You said: 1 Cor 13:4-7 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Laura: Today you failed at this. Boastful, proud and self-seeking, angry and rude. Tomorrow, you should try again. Love everyone where is, as is. Only then can you try and spread the Word of Christ. Love first.

I'd like to ANSWER that: First of all, I have NEVER been "boastful." If you will go back and see what I wrote, I said I was BLESSED BY GOD. God takes delight in blessing those who love Him. So, am I praising the Lord? Yes; ALWAYS. I take NO credit for ANYTHING I have in this life--for EVERYTHING have been gifts from GOD. And, because I said I am PROUD to say I love MY LORD AND SAVIOR--well, I think GOD would "delight" in that as well. Am I angry? Not at all. I'm extremely disappointed that someone could be so ignorant as to spout off a statement such as Amy did (saying Jesus IS GAY!). When someone hurts MY Jesus, yes--they have HURT ME--because the Holy Spirit dwells within ME. Sorry you do not feel the same way I do about God. Jesus shed his blood for YOU! He died for YOUR sins so that you could be saved? Is this how you repay Him? By standing by those who mock Him?? Not me.

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Laura Jackson

9:51 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

And, I have talked with my Pastor this morning. I have told him about this "site." He talked with me in length and suggested I do as the Holy Spirit directs me to do (which is to AVOID the wicked). Take no part in anything which is wicked or in an attempt to destroy the Holy name of Jesus. Since Atheists will always exist and, seeing by these entries, ignorance will always exist too, I am bidding you all a fond farewell. I will no longer take part in this hideous and shameful site. Hopefully, one day your eyes will be opened and you will realize that God DOES exist, His WORDS in the Bible STILL hold true today, and that Jesus Christ IS the Messiah--and He shed His blood on the cross to pay for your sins. If you choose to repay him by mocking Him and ignoring Him, that's EXACTLY what you will get AFTER it is too late. When you knock on the door to try to get into Heaven, Jesus will answer, "I do not KNOW you." You will be turned away. I KNOW in my heart I will NOT be turned away (as I have formed a deep, personal relationship with Jesus), and, as I said before--his Holy Spirit lives in me. My Pastor also said not to fret about trying to "defend" Jesus. He laughed and said that Jesus KNOWS all. He KNOWS my heart. He also knows YOUR hearts. You want to know how the Bible ends? I will tell you this--there will be a huge fight between the Devil and God. And, not to spoil it for you--but GOD wins! The Devil and his "angels" will be sent to Hell for all Eternity.

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Laura Jackson

9:59 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

So, good-bye. It's been very informative in here (to say the least). This is just another example that proves to me that the Second Coming of Christ is going to happen sooner than later. Don't believe me? Read the Books of Daniel and Revelations. Christians turning against other Christians. Satan taking over the Churches (which is true here--thinking the Bible's words are outdated). That's Satan fooling you. I will pray for God's mercy on each and every one of your souls. But, yes--I AM going to "avoid" the ways of the wicked and keep only unto other "believers"--my brothers and sisters in Christ (whom I will share Eternity with in Heaven). I would say, "God Bless You." However, my pastor said to "Bless an Atheist--someone who does NOT believe in God" is an abomination to Him. So, to the Atheists--I bid you farewell. I will not say, "God Bless You." And, I sincerely hope Amy asks God to forgive HER (for her ignorance of saying AND actually believing that Jesus was/is "gay"). I'm ashamed I ever came into THIS site. You will NOT see me go into ANOTHER "gay" site again--as it goes against everything I believe in. But, come November, I can say this much. I will NOT be voting to approve GAY MARRIAGE--not now, not in November; not EVER. Sorry and good-bye! And, Leslie--one last thing to say to you: You did NOT have to "pretend" to be someone else in here to say what you did. Remember--you also said you believed Vi Ripken was not kidnapped--that's hypocritical!

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Julie

10:02 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

Laura you keep calling people ignorant. You yourself are ignorant for stating that people choose to be gay. People are born gay/lesbian or straight. Get over it! It isn't hurting you to see a same sex couple. If your children gave you grandkids who were born gay/lesbian, would you love them less and tell them to confess their sins to god?

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Laura Jackson

11:01 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

Before I go, sorry--Frank (AKA LESLIE), I MUST address what Julie said: She said that people are BORN "GAY." Sorry Julie that you feel this way. God did not create anyone of His people to be BORN "gay." People CHOOSE their own way of living. As for your comment or question asking how I would feel if one of my children or grandchildren were "gay," well--I can tell you (without a doubt) that would NEVER happen. If you are gay, then you were not born to a family with Christian values. If your children are gay, then they were not taught Christian values. The same applies to your children's children. I was raised in a Christian household. I was taught the word of God from a very early age. I raised my children to trust in the word of God and apply those words to their lives. Once a person gets God into his/her life, lives by God's commandments, he/she will NEVER stray from those values. And, Frank--you can now go back in and put your real name back in here. So long, Leslie (AKA "Frank"). I knew it was you when you sadly mentioned how old the Bible is and does not apply to today's world. That was the first thing you ever mentioned. I suppose you forgot. However, I remembered YOUR words; hence, I know your true identity. And, no--Leslie--this is NOT a long good-bye. I just had to explain to Julie (as well as the rest of you) that had you been RAISED in a Christian household (believing the Bible), you would NOT be gay. The thought would never come to mind! BYE!

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FIFA_archived

11:08 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

You promised you were leaving us forever!! You lied.

Huh, Frank is Leslie and Leslie is Frank?? Is that the same as transgender?

Frank has too much fun just being himself.

Raised = Indoctrinated.

Laura Jackson

11:13 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

And, to those who think the Bible is "outdated" (Leslie), if you do not believe in God's commandments nor follow them, then I suppose ALL sin is okay with you? Sin is sin. Some greater than others. So, what you are all saying is this: God does not exist. The Bible is a "fairy tale" not to be believed. If you believe it is okay to commit sin (such as idolatry, sexual immorality as that of homosexuality), then I suppose you also believe it is okay to commit adultery. You must believe it is okay to steal, lie, cheat, and even commit murder. After all, there are plenty of people who kill in today's world and think there is nothing wrong with what they've done. So, YOU must also believe that ALL of God's Commandments are old-fashioned and do NOT apply to today's world. I am ashamed of all of you (well--most of you). I am NOT leaving because I feel "I've lost." On the contrary. I am not like the rest of you (who kiss others butts--just to feel like you are "accepted" in society). The ONLY one I care about ACCEPTING me is MY LORD AND SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, and He does! You are all "followers" of each other. I am a leader. I care not what others think of me. The ONLY one I will ever follow in life is God! I would say, "see you in Heaven," but, with your rantings and cruel words about Jesus, I highly doubt it. I'm just glad that I don't feel like I HAVE to agree with others to be "popular." That is a true sign of insecurity. Am I am VERY secure (with God)!

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Laura Jackson

11:21 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012

Since most, if not all of the "Christians"--the TRUE "Christians" have now left this site, the only ones left are the gay Atheists. So, I guess you will enjoy your conversations with each other (comparing notes on how there is no God, how the Bible is fictional nonsense, and how much you enjoy your sexual encounters of your own kind). Enjoy this life. Because, sadly--for YOU--this IS all there is for you. You will NOT have the pleasure of seeing any sort of afterlife in Heaven. How do I know this? The Bible (which is the TRUTH) says so. And, yes--I CHOOSE to believe in the WORDS OF GOD; just as YOU have CHOSEN to be Atheists and/or GAY. Don't get mad at me. I did NOT write the Bible. If you are MAD, get mad at God. But, if I were you, I would NOT upset Almighty God. I fear nobody. I do, however, fear God (as I have tremendous respect for Him). That's why I am leaving this site. After all, this site is an abomination to God; and your words are DESPICABLE--not just in my eyes; but, in the eyes of GOD! Play nicely now. I cannot imagine you'll "argue" with each other (since you all think alike). Better to be "popular" here and go to Hell, right? No. Not for me. I'd rather be persecuted for Jesus' namesake and go to Heaven. It's sad that you would rather be accepted by society than by God. So sad! Good-bye "Frank" (AKA LESLIE).

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Terri Schmidt

1:10 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012

I have just finished reading this entire dialogue and just want to say to those who do not believe in God, or believe in multiple gods, whatever, that Laura does not speak for people like me who are followers of Jesus Christ and His teachings. Jesus did not teach hate, nor revenge, He taught us to love one another, even if we do not agree with each other. Jesus did not spend all of His time with like-minded believers, he spent His time with people who had sinned in a myriad of ways. He loved them despite this, He loves us today despite the many sins we commit each day. He taught us to love one another, not to attack each other. I do not for one minute believe that attacking someone who does not share my beliefs will bring them close to God the Father or Jesus His Son. There are no sinless people on this earth. We all sin in one way or another. I am humbled by the fact that Jesus loved us enough to die a cruel and horrible death on a cross to save those who will believe in Him. He did not taunt others, He did not look for revenge on those who mocked Him.

So again, please do not believe that Laura is indicative of those who call themselves Christians. A true follower of Jesus will not act nor speak as she does.

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Casey

12:36 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Terri - Very well said!!

Laura Jackson

8:35 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012

TERRY SCHMIDT--YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN IF YOU VALUE AMY'S COMMENTS WHEN SHE SAID JESUS IS GAY! If you AGREE with HER and the Atheists in here, do not insult God by indicating you are a Christian. God does NOT love everyone. He HATES also (as indicated in the Bible). He DESPISES THE IDOLATORS (people who bow down to the POPE), he despises HOMOSEXUALS, CHEATERS, ADULTERY, MURDERERS, LIARS, etc. I never claimed I was a perfect Christian (as you obviously claim YOU are, Terry); however, if you can defend those people who have attacked JESUS CHRIST (who DID DIE ON THE CROSS--CRUCIFIED AND TORTURED BY THE ROMANS I MIGHT ADD), then do NOT refer to yourself as a Christian. Why do you think God puts people in Hell? He does not WANT people to go to Hell (that's true); however, he gave everyone FREE CHOICE to accept His Son as THEIR PERSONAL SAVIOR. Now, re-read the comments from everyone again. The majority of them deny CHRIST or even that GOD existed; and some mocked JESUS by saying He was/is GAY! So, I'm NOT upset for what they've said to ME. But, when they ATTACK JESUS, YES--I WILL DEFEND THE ONE WHO DIED FOR ME! So, let me get this straight, Terry. You will NOT defend Jesus Christ? Yet, you WILL defend the Atheists (who either do NOT believe in GOD or HATE JESUS CHRIST)? If so, I am GLAD I am NOT in your categorization of what you consider to be a "Christian." And, FIFA--God hates AMPUTEES?? NO. GOD suffered MORE FOR EVERYONE! Stop the pity party!

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Laura Jackson

8:37 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012

And, darn straight I'm back. I thought about what my Pastor said. While I do NOT condone FIFA's/FRANK (AKA LESLIE, etc.) comments in here about homosexuality, I WILL ALWAYS COME TO THE DEFENSE OF JESUS CHRIST. A TRUE Christian will always defend their Lord--so much for Terry (who condones and obviously agrees with Amy who said that Jesus is GAY). Shame on YOU, Terry. If you LOVE Jesus, you will take a STAND for HIM and His namesake--and not try to win the "popular" vote with those Jesus-haters in here!

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FIFA_archived

8:42 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012

Laura's Hate List

1. Atheists
2. Some Christians
3. Gays
4. All others who don't believe what she believes.
5. Frank, Amy, FIFA, etc.

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Laura Jackson

8:47 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012

And, while I can admit that I said some things (out of fun) to some in here, I NEVER ONCE put down Jesus, Terry. You say Jesus does not HATE. He loves everyone. Yes, he does love everyone; but, he will NOT "force" those who HATE Him to come to Him. It must be their own FREE Choice. And, look at them--they all HATE/DESPISE JESUS. Calling Jesus GAY is the worst thing I have ever heard ANYONE say. So, you can "stick up" for those people that called Jesus "gay," Terry. But, I will NOT have MY Lord attacked. He suffered enough on the CROSS! Perhaps you should watch Trinity Broadcasting Network. Or, better yet, look at ACLJ.org. See all of the wasteful Federal lawsuits the ATHEISTS are filing. They want the STATUE of JESUS (a WWII Memorial that has been standing there for 59 years) in the State of MONTANA TAKEN DOWN! They also are NOW demanding the CROSS at Ground Zero be REMOVED. Since you obviously agree with the "Atheists" in here and LOVE them MORE than you love your Lord, why don't you join in on the lawsuit. As for me, I was one of the first people to sign their petitions to keep the Statue of Jesus up in Montana as well as the Cross at Ground Zero. These "religious" symbols bring comfort to those who lost their lives. You stand up for them, Terry. I will continue to stand up for JESUS! After all, he died a horrible death for me. And, therefore, there's NOTHING I would not do for Jesus. How about you, Terry? Do you love THEM more; or Jesus more?

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Arbutus Town Crier

12:00 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

(shaking my head in disbelief)” and everyone else, their no need to bring in Biblical beliefs and quotes into discussion, MORALS YES! Whoever’s religion, basically all religions are the same, use it for good of humanity or but to force other to believe in ur beliefs disrupts causing division to war. Majority of the world believes in God, an Entity, a Force, Creator and tolerance (peace) even to the ones that don't. But when religions jump in to political it divided our morals by quotes from their beliefs is intended to divide. Who cares where you get your good morals from? Right and wrong is the discussion. When a religion marches, and cause disruptions, break & enter, fires and destruction, mind control makes you think right or wrong and a better way a good example 1977 Jim Jones mind control. Let me put it in easier way. If three people of the same religion one being the leader standing on a tall building, and tell you to jump? One who believes in man jumps! the one that thinks independently will not. One’s common sense the universal is endowed in all humans souls of freedom, awareness of one's environment and one's own existence, sensations, and thoughts. Laura. Past human actions and history repeats itself and there are plenty of examples to use Cause and Effect. Tolerance should be taught As an American Freedom is here, same rights in a union of love, the word Marriage is my issue. My personal opinion is peace, even if I disapprove the actions. Freedom & Peace

Laura Jackson

9:01 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012

Oh FIFA--I do NOT have a "hate" list. I do NOT hate ANYONE. I never said I hated Atheists, gays, etc. as you put it. I never even said I HATED "AMY." So, please get your facts correct. I simply stated that I do NOT agree with your views. So sue me. Just because I DO believe in God does NOT make me an "Atheist-hater." Just because I oppose same-sex marriage does not make me a "gay-people hater." And, just because Amy was "ignorant" by saying that Jesus is gay, I do NOT hate her. I HATE what she said. There's a HUGE difference. As for your comment that Christianity is the minority in this world. Here's some facts--I googled it for you--and it is CURRENT for 2012. It says:

The most popular religion in the world is Christianity. Estimates suggest there are currently approximately two billion practicing Christians. About half of these are Catholics, and the majority shares of other Christian faiths include Protestants and Anglicans. In total, roughly 33% of those in the world practice Christianity in some form. Islam comes in as the second most popular religion in the world, with approximately one billion members. Some Islamic people claim that there are actually more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians.

So, according to statistics around the world, Christianity is in the number one spot.

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Laura Jackson

9:08 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012

My question to you, FIFA is this: WHY are YOU so "hateful"? It certainly seems that way. You've called me every name in the book. Honestly, I do not care what people call me. Why? Because I have God in my corner. Perhaps you should take the advice of ATC. Prayer DOES work. I KNOW this for a fact. It's not simply a coincidence. If prayers are NOT answered, it's because God has a "better" plan for your life. He knew YOU way before your existence. The Bible says He knew YOU before you were in your mother's womb. You want evidence. God does not "show" Himself for a very good reason. He wants and expects His people to have faith. Faith comes by hearing; and hearing by the word of God. I'm not "trying" to change you. I just believe if you had God in your life, your life would be so much better. Only YOU can make the decision to accept Jesus. That is completely up to you. But, seriously--I do NOT hate ANYONE. You've labeled me unfairly. So has everyone else. Call me a Bible thumper. Call me a Jesus freak. Call me a nut because I believe in something that cannot be seen. That's fine. But, please do not say I "HATE" certain groups of people--just because I do not share their views. You also said a while back that I was a bigot and a racist. I NEVER said I hated black people. NEVER. In fact, before I got married, I dated a black man. So, please, please, tell me how I could be a "racist"? I am far from it. I don't care about the color of one's skin.

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Laura Jackson

9:12 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012

FIFA--we are ALL equal in the eyes of God. God created us all different for a reason. You asked about amputees or people with disabilities. God is not a "cruel" God. He cares about everyone. He allows things to happen for a reason. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. And, if you have enough faith in God, you get your strength from the Holy Spirit. Sorry to disappoint you. I HATE NOBODY. I hate the actions of certain people. It's like if your kid were to throw a temper tantrum or something. You wouldn't stop LOVING your child. You may hate/or not like their actions; but, that does not mean you HATE them. God does NOT hate YOU, FIFA. On the contrary, he DOES LOVE you. He's waiting for you to make the choice to ask Him to come into your heart. He WANTS a relationship with you; but, He will NEVER force you to make that decision.

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DawnP

12:53 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

We are all equal in the eyes of God. Even amputees or people with disabilities. Except that (since, according to you, we can't pick and choose from the Bible), people with disabilities (even just bad vision) aren't allowed in Church. (Leviticus 21:16-23)

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Arbutus Town Crier

3:19 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

The human mind is designed to be free to think, learn refinement of the mind and over come life's obstacles Just because one don't believe in any book or the process like Natural theology, Darwin did Prayed and Stated “I could have written out the whole of the 'Evidences' with perfect correctness, but not of course in the clear language of Paley,” Paley “I do not think I hardly ever admired a book more than Paley's 'Natural Theology. But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be inquired how the watch happened to be in that place, I should hardly think of the answer which I had before given,--that, for anything I know, the watch might have always been there. Yet why should not this answer serve for the watch as well as for the stone?...For this reason, and for no other, viz,. that, when we come to inspect the watch we perceive (what we could not discover in the stone) that its several parts are famed put together for a purpose....[Description of watch omitted.] This mechanism being observed... the inference, we think, is inevitalbe, that the watch must have had a maker....who comprehended its construction, and designed its use. Just because one don't believe the way you want them to, the conclusion is the same. it does not matter, Setting a side the books and seek the truth yourself as these gentlemen have done You have the same conclusion your spiritual path is just different. Americans celebration of the 4th of July for this reason

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Arbutus Town Crier

3:48 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

What is wrong with Paley's argument? nothing, the argument that is given is a material not the workings and process of the actions, but deflecting ones thoughts to a material matter. The universal language music and Math, everything on this planet solar system is frequency (music used 4 basic understanding) math DNA? building both applied

Paley's basic assertion that contrivance shows the presence of a designing intelligence.The Deity's attributes, once His existence has been proved, "must be adequate to the magnitude, extent, and multiplicity of his operations." He finds proof of the unity of the Deity in "the uniformity of plan observable in the universe." He also notes the resemblance of "all large terrestrial animals" in their structure

The goodness of the Deity is proved by two things. The first of these is the beneficial nature of the contrivances designed by Him. The second is the fact that pleasure has been added to animal sensations. Paley does not go on to give extended proofs of the other attributes of God, such as beauty, omnipresence, and so on

Whatever path you take majority of humans end up with the same conclusion.there is no need to pin religion against another It applies to race also.

Laura Jackson

9:25 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012

And, Julie--I also wanted to let you know you were right. It does NOT hurt me to see people of the same sex together. Not at all. All I said was (in the beginning of this discussion) was I would NOT vote for same-sex marriage. It goes against MY religious beliefs. If it does not go against YOUR religious beliefs, then by all means, VOTE for same-sex marriage. That's WHY we have elections. We all have the right to VOTE the way we want. Is that okay with you? See--everyone in here is condemning ME, calling ME the bigot. But, in reality, YOU are doing exactly what you accuse me of doing. You are doing all of this "ignorant" name-calling because I will not agree with YOUR viewpoints. Right? So, why is it okay for you to HATE just because I disagree with you? Your accusations are reflected right back towards yourselves. I have the right to voice MY religious beliefs. I never said to anyone in here that you HAD to agree with me or ADOPT MY beliefs. NEVER. However, you all have done the opposite. And, yeah--this subject has gotten so out of hand. Allow people to VOTE however they wish. This is America, people--not Iraq or Iran.

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Neighbor

11:16 am on Monday, August 20, 2012

You should vote for the marriage equality act because it's the right thing to do. Even if you do not personally endorse same sex marriage, you should acknowledge that the state should remain impartial in order to support freedom for everyone. If you vote against the measure, you are forcing your will on other people.

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Arbutus Town Crier

4:33 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

why change the definition,between man and woman? call it something else respectful common marriage has been used, an "equal marriage"
Marriage Man & Woman
Common-law marriage marriage by habit and repute could be used
"equal marriage"............would have a positive, not offensive
1-My thoughts on religion side is for me to guide myself not impose on another
2- I'm an American and equal rights by Constitution is a must, and I mean EQUAL
3- Tolerance and respect
4- As with the Issue with birth control, no religion should stand in its way, when man controls the person your NOT FREE!
If offered equally to all, If your religious belief and conscious should guide you.

Lori

9:00 am on Sunday, August 19, 2012

I am astounded by all the hatred being spewed by so many people. Did your mothers ever tell you to “take the high road” or “two wrongs do not make a right”? I understand that we all have the right to our own opinions, and that some are passionate about their opinions but what gives you the right to be so cruel to one another? This forum gives us the opportunity to digest the different sides to whatever the issue is. Maybe by listening to what someone says can help us look at the topic differently or have a little bit more understanding. That is totally lost with all the snide remarks being made.
Laura, your comments pushed me to chime in. I hear a lot of fear in your writings. No one is without sin, I just hope God has more compassion and understanding for you, than you have for your fellow men/women. I suggest that you read the Peace Prayer of St. Francis of Assisi.

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Casey

12:37 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Lori - I absolutely agree.

Laura Jackson

11:20 am on Monday, August 20, 2012

Lori: You said: Laura, your comments pushed me to chime in. I hear a lot of fear in your writings. No one is without sin, I just hope God has more compassion and understanding for you, than you have for your fellow men/women. I suggest that you read the Peace Prayer of St. Francis of Assisi.
FYI--The ONLY Fear I have is the Fear of God. Yes, I AM a God-Fearing Woman. I understand that NO PERSON is without sin for we ALL fall short of the glory of God. But, when God says to LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELVES, he was NOT referring to the wicked or the ungodly. In fact, He, Himself, says we are to turn our backs on the wicked, the corrupt, and the immoral. PSALM 139:21, 22 says, "Do not I hate them, O Lord, who hate thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies." So, what you're saying is that you LOVE everyone?? If so, then you are lying. Please tell me that you LOVE child molestors, you LOVE terrorists and what they did on 9/11, you LOVE rapists, you LOVE murderers! Jesus does NOT expect us to LOVE the non-believers of Him or the unholy. Even He abhors the wicked. Another verse for you to ponder: Leviticus 20:13, "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done with is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." I'm sorry, Lori, if you think my words are "spewing hatred." These are NOT "MY" words. These are the words of GOD! Feel free to look at the Bible.

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Neighbor

11:28 am on Monday, August 20, 2012

You shouldn't believe everything that you read. After all, this book that you are quoting is a translation of a translation printed in a factory by a machine. Deep down inside you must know how fanatical you sound.

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Casey

12:38 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura - You quoted Leviticus as condemning homosexuality because the Scripture says, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind; it is an abomination." As a gay man, I do not have sex with women, I have sex with men. Thus, I do not lie with mankind as with womankind. This Scripture was not intended to condemn homosexuality.

By the way, Leviticus also forbids wearing clothes made of two fabrics and says we should stone children who disrespect their parents. You had better check your closet and supply of stones.

Laura Jackson

11:23 am on Monday, August 20, 2012

And, FIFA--I also wish to tell you something--while you claim that GOD HATES AMPUTEES, which is NOT true--perhaps you should go to www.lifewithoutlimbs.org and see a man who ministers all over the world praising God. His name is Nick Vujicic and was born without any arms OR legs. And, yet, he STILL praises God. He should not only be an inspiration to you, but an inspiration to ALL. May you find comfort in the Lord, Jesus Christ (who died on the Cross for your sins) and understand that God does NOT hate amputees.

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Laura Jackson

11:32 am on Monday, August 20, 2012

Note: If God LOVES everyone, then there would be NO HELL. Everyone would go to Heaven, right? That's not true. If you are a Christian, you would understand that. In fact, there is really only ONE true unpardonable sin. And, that is denying Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and not acknowledging that He died on the Cross for YOUR sins and mine. If everyone (which we are ALL sinners) did not need "salvation" in order to go to Heaven, God would not have sent His one and only Son to Earth to die a horrible death and shed His blood to cleanse us of our sins. So, to the NON-BELIEVERS, yes--sorry; but, the Bible says they will surely be put to death. Those are the words of God. And, my PASSION for JESUS has prompted me to get on this site in the first place. And, this person (AMY) who has not been on here for a while was the one who said that Jesus was/is GAY--the WORST thing I have ever read in my entire life. For HER "hatred" of our Lord and Savior, I would NOT want to be in her shoes. Denying God and Jesus Christ is a certain one-way ticket to Hell. Mocking the Lord is something else. I am NOT God--nor do I pretend to be. I am not a perfect Christian; however, I CHOOSE to walk in the way of the Lord as much as possible. Please do not be fooled to believe the Lord "loves" everyone and everything in today's world. There are many things the Lord detests. It is only those who acknowledge sin and repent that will be forgiven.

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Tillie Diesel

11:35 am on Monday, August 20, 2012

Claiming that someone elses marriage is against your religion is like being angry at someone for eating a cupcake because you are on a diet.

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Laura Jackson

11:38 am on Monday, August 20, 2012

For those who have said to ME, "Judge not lest ye be judged," look at the manner in which you have spoken to me. You have judged ME first for believing in the Word of God. So, as the Bible says, "How can you see the speck of dust in the eyes of others, when there is a log in your own eyes?" Do not judge me for LOVING JESUS. If you "choose" to not believe in God, that is up to you. If you choose to say the Bible is a "fairy tale" (which FIFA said), then so be it. And, if you choose to commit sin, then commit sin. If you choose to call Jesus "gay" (as Amy did), that is "HER" statement--most DEFINITELY NOT MINE. It's very hard to live a Godly life in this ungodly world. But, I'm doing the best I can--considering what others have said to me (or about my precious Jesus). God will be the final judge of us all. Just let it go at that. Okay?

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Laura Jackson

11:57 am on Monday, August 20, 2012

Hyattsvillecouldbebetter: You cannot "FORCE" me to vote "YOUR" way; no more than I can "FORCE" you to vote "MY" way. You sound ridiculous. Why not tell me who I should vote for as the President? Oh--and, Lori--As for the "Peace Prayer of St. Francis of Assisi," this "prayer" of unknown origin was often attributed or said to be written by St. Francis (whoever he is). But, this prayer was apparently written in France during World War I, perhaps by a Catholic Priest, supposedly but not for sure by Father Bouquerel. I do not apply such writings to my religious beliefs. I am NOT Catholic. I go only by the teachings and writings of the HOLY BIBLE. And, it says in the Bible in Deuteronomy 4:2,
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Therefore, the Mormons and Catholics (among some of them) DO add their own teachings (additional books) that they follow (besides the Bible). I do not; nor would I ever. The Methodist Church does not "ADD" or "DELETE" any wording from the Holy Bible. And, Tillie--your statement is just silly. Silly Tillie!

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Neighbor

12:30 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Your extreme fanatical views are very narrow. You are obsessing over a single book when there are trillions of them out there. You are basing your entire life on an assumption that could be wrong. For all you know, the real God hates people who show blind faith and sends them all to Hell for not being able to form opinions of their own. In a world with so many beliefs, how can you be absolutely certain that yours is the right one? How can you be sure that when your bible was translated to English, the translator didn't make any mistakes? How do you know that you aren't obsessing over a lie?

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Steve

12:49 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

LOL The Methodist Church totally rewrote the Bible. Do a comparison between the Living Bible and the real Bible some time.

Laura Jackson

12:08 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Tillie--you would actually compare same-sex religion with a cupcake? My religious beliefs are that marriage is between a man and a woman. What gay people do behind closed doors is none of my business. But, I would not support it. Just as I would not feed an "obese" person a dozen cupcakes. That, too, would just go against my personal values. There's nothing worse than seeing someone on television that weighs a thousand pounds and, worse yet, seeing the person(s) who continually bring FOOD to this person! I know, I know--we are not on the subject of obesity here. But, I just wanted to point out that my religious beliefs are important to me (just as my values are about obesity). My goal in life is to "save" people; not to see them die. Even "glutony" is a sin (according to the Word), if you want to get technical. But, I can't MAKE someone accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. It's something they have to want for themselves. And, I also cannot slap cookies out of a obese person's hands either. If they want to lose weight, they'll have to do it for themselves. Every person has FREE WILL and CHOICE to do as he/she pleases. Again--I'm NOT God. I am NOT judging anyone in here. God IS the ONLY Judge. I only stated what I would do based on my religious beliefs. Period. End of story.

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Neighbor

1:01 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

You're saying you wouldn't slap cupcakes out of a fat persons hand, but you would be doing the equivalent, only much much worse, if you voted against marriage equality. If you aren't going to support it, then just don't vote on the measure. At least that way you wouldn't have to worry about hurting anyone and you wouldn't be imposing your opinion on other peoples lives.

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Casey

12:40 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura - You are free to believe whatever you want about gay marriage and homosexuality, but please do not use your opinion to deny LGBT individuals legal equality.

Neighbor

12:10 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

This article was about the economic benefits of allowing Same Sex Marriage. There is a high concentration of gays in the DC metro area. The gay demographic includes many hard working professionals who would be willing to spend their hard earned dollars in Maryland if the state showed respect for them by providing marriage equality. The state's elected officials have gone so far as to pass a measure enacting this right, but it is now up to the people of Maryland to approve it. Maryland is a very black and white state that tends to have a lot of segregation and dilapidated neighborhoods. Gays tend to prefer urban living and have successfully renovated and many inner city urban slums across the country. They also are more likely to move into all black neighborhoods which adds diversity and reduces the harmful effects of segregation. Gays are also a relatively non-violent demographic who very rarely qualify for welfare or section 8 housing since they do not have children naturally. The same quality that allows them to be open about their sexuality allows them to be open about their appreciation for art and music. They are not controlled by fears of gender stereo types and therefore they free to express themselves in ways that are artistic and aesthetic. Lily Qi is correct in pointing out the long term economic benefits of allowing same sex marriage in Maryland.

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Ashley

12:15 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Laura... not to burst your bubble or anything, but Christianity is only 2000 years old. It started as a small Jewish sect. Judaism is only 4000 years old. Humans have been on this earth for at least 3.2 million years. Seeing as we have proof of evolution and humans predate your precious bible by several million years, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say there is a VERY, VERY small chance that your particular "God" actually exists. If you want to believe in the bible, that's fine, but Christianity is no more valid than any of the hundreds of religions that have come and gone before it and after it. It has no place in the government. The basic things like do not rape, do not murder, do not steal, etc. are principles that every man of every faith can live by, they are not exclusive to Christianity. So please, stop acting like "Christians" are the only ones with morals.

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Neighbor

12:41 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

God has sent Laura Jackson to us so that we can show her the error in her ways. Don't you see Laura, you have been sheltered all your life, never given the opportunity to see things the way other people see them. The computer you are using and the internet hosting this discussion are creations of men and women who wanted information to be shared. Now is your opportunity to learn that Heaven and Hell are constructs devised by men in order to control the masses and keep order in a time when people didn't understand the world around them. You are letting archaic beliefs alienate you from a rich and beautiful existence.

Laura Jackson

1:44 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

HyattsvileCouldBeBetter: I have NEVER told you how to live YOUR life--now, have I? NO. So, please do not tell me how to live mine. While you said I have "alienated myself from a rich and beautiful existence," I have to ask ????? What rich and beautiful existence are you referring to? If you are talking about this life, yes. I have turned my life over to Jesus Christ so that I might have a "rich and beautiful existence in Heaven." That's my belief. If you choose to live IN this world and keep on sinning, that is totally up to you. It's sad that most people choose NOT to become a Christian because they believe they don't/can't have anymore fun. How false that is. Have you ever seen the "Duggar" family? They are super religious (even more so than I am), and I've never seen a happier family. Ever! It all depends on what your definition of "fun" is. So, you can do whatever you like. Who's stopping you? As for telling me NOT to vote--I will do what I like on that subject. How would YOU feel if I told you not to vote for a President (just because I didn't like YOUR choice)? For your "reading pleasure," I cut and pasted something I read online earlier. For the record, these are NOT MY words and not MY writing.

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Neighbor

1:48 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I'm mostly referring to an existence where YOU don't have to capitalize WORDS to emphasize what a PSYCHO you are.

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Neighbor

2:16 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Let's see how happy the Dugger family's son is when he figures out that he is gay and has to lie to himself and the people closest to him in order to satisfy their obsession with the Christianity, and how later on in his life he will marry a female despite his closeted desires and end up miserable and envious of modern humans who have let go of biblical stigma to make way for an enlightened existence that welcomes human nature instead of chastising it. How would you know anything about my sinning. You don't know anything about me other than the fact that I am not a religious zealot like yourself. I'm telling you that if you don't want to impose your beliefs on other people, then don't vote against a measure that has been introduced to bring equality and allow people other than yourself a right to obtain happiness how they see fit. You need to take a moment and read what other people say instead of just blowing up with crazy rants and raves that are completely off topic. Instead of engaging in a discussion, all you do is praise yourself with self righteous nonsense. Who are you trying to convince that you are a saint? You're like the crazy mother in the movie Carrie or the woman in Stephen King's The Mist. You are a villain. A hateful, spiteful, ignorant wretch obsessed with your beliefs in the bible and completely ignorant to the truth.

Laura Jackson

1:45 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

This is what I read:
The Holy Word of God tells Christians they are to love their neighbour as themselves. Jesus gave that as a command in MATTHEW 19:19 and MATTHEW 22:39, and both Paul and James repeated it in their epistles. But, does that command really mean Christians are to love those who fit the scriptural definition of the wicked? Are they to love unrepentant sinners who continually commit sin and wickedness? The answer is, "NO!"; Christians are commanded to do no such thing.

In fact, forgiveness was commanded only if the brother repented of his wrong. Instead, today when Christian people speak out against sin and iniquity in the land, and suggest that the criminal should be punished, they are often told, "Oh, you shouldn't feel like that, you should forgive them; after all, if you are a Christian, you must love and forgive." Then they will throw in something about loving our neighbour as ourselves, and the Christians are shamed into silence as if they were the wrongdoer instead of the criminal. Although most of them know that God Almighty in His Law ordered His people to execute murderers and rapists, and to require thieves to restore two-fold to five-fold, not to the government in a fine but in money and goods to the victim, this 'love-and-forgive philosophy' which has been insinuated into the minds of most Christians prevents them from speaking out for obedience to God's Laws. They have been conditioned to react to the love philosophy instead of Bible Law.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:33 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

1:47 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

And, just to note: I'm not sure WHAT Methodist Church you are referring to; however, MY church uses the King James Version of the HOLY BIBLE. Basically, while the words may differ just a little, ALL HOLY BIBLES basically say the same. The only difference with "additional" books such as what the Mormons and Catholics go by is that none of what is written in them is incorporated into the Holy Bible.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:33 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Tillie Diesel

1:50 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. -SBA

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Laura Jackson

1:54 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

And, no--I do not eat pork, shellfish, etc. Just to let you know. However, I am not like the "Duggar" family either. I do wear pants (they only wear long skirts). They do not believe in dancing (I do). And, they have a lot more children than I would ever want to have (I only have 3, while they have 19). They do not watch ANY television (I do). So, while I am not like the Duggars, I do not "condemn" them for THEIR beliefs. They also can live the way they choose according to their beliefs. So, why are YOU "condemning" ME for my beliefs? Just curious. I have not told ONE person in here HOW they should live. Not ONCE. I have always stated that you can live as you choose. You can do whatever you wish. Nobody is stopping you. However, in America, we DO have the right to vote on certain issues. Same-sex marriage is just one of them. Abortion is another. Gambling another. I NEVER claimed to be "perfect." If I was "perfect," I would not need Jesus in my life for my salvation. I have also said that. And, WHY would you say that I said God did not like amputees? FIFA said that!!! I never said that. In fact, I stressed to FIFA that God DID LOVE ALL PEOPLE. That's why I referred him to that website about the Minister born without arms and legs. He is a true inspiration! However, if you DENY God, especially, His Son, yes--I believe you will not go unpunished. Not according to ME; but, according to the HOLY BIBLE.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:32 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

2:00 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

And, while my children DID go to "public" schools, none of their CLOSE friends were gay. There may very well have been gay people at their schools. I'm not denying that fact. But, I raised my children to believe in right from wrong. I raised them to believe in the Word of God and to do their very best in PLEASING GOD. And, since they are all grown now, from what I can see--they also have a very good relationship with the Lord. It's because of the Word, they CHOSE not to smoke, not to drink, not to do drugs, etc. Again, I do not take credit for anything. I give all credit for everything in my life to GOD. Therefore, I will continue to praise him--every when times are tough. And, God never promised we would not have troubled times. The Bible IS true. If you read it, you will see what was written thousands of years ago is NOW COMING TO PASS. Who better to know the future of this world than the Creator of it?

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Ashley

2:26 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Laura... "prophecies" can be loosely translated to fit just about anything. That's why every generation has been convinced they're living in the end times. They thought Hitler was the Anti-Christ. They believed that the black plague was God's wrath. There are no written dates and times that these prophecies are supposed to come true. You're putting all your faith in a book, that was written by men 2000 years ago. It has been translated and changed many times over since then. Aside from that, there have been hundreds of religions/rituals dating as far back as 100,000 BC (That's 98,000 years before yours came into play). THERE IS NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT YOURS.

Simply put, it doesn't matter what BS you believe in. Your beliefs have no place in the government. None. The government is impartial to particular belief systems when it comes to laws.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:32 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

2:06 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Tillie Diesel
1:50 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. -SBA

Tillie--I'm sorry you feel this way. The ONLY reason I know so well what God wants me to do is because I have read His Word. And, while it may "coincide" with my own desires (or the desires of the flesh), that's why I have become a born-again Christian (so I could live a new life in Christ) and turn my back on sin. It's rather "easy" to do when the Holy Spirit lives within you, Tillie--because, you would rather please God than to please the desires of your flesh. Hey--I'm not having any trouble. And, I am very happy with my life and grateful for the things God has given me and my family. :D

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Tillie Diesel

2:37 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

So instead of supporting two people who want to be in a loving committed relationship, you would rather vote against them so they are treated as second class citizens. Why would you want to make gay’s people life as miserable as possible? Why would you want to make life harder for them? Don't you think Gay people have had enough of intolerance based on someone else’s religion? Because your god said so? My God is about love! You promote misery by your vote. Don't you see that? Look at your posts, there is something fundamentally wrong with you. You are no better than the Westboro Baptist Church followers. I feel very sad that there are people like you out there. Very sad indeed. If you truly understood what love is, there is no way you would wish the misery you spew onto gay people. Imagine if someone attacked your kids the way you are attacking gay people. You wonder why people are attacking you and your religion. You are just mean spirited. Have your pastor read what you wrote here, I’m sure he would be disgusted with you and send you to confession. I know you have turned a lot of people away from religion. Who wants to be part of something so hateful? For that I thank you for showing me that Methodists are not good people.

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Tillie Diesel

2:37 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

So instead of supporting two people who want to be in a loving committed relationship, you would rather vote against them so they are treated as second class citizens. Why would you want to make gay’s people life as miserable as possible? Why would you want to make life harder for them? Don't you think Gay people have had enough of intolerance based on someone else’s religion? Because your god said so? My God is about love! You promote misery by your vote. Don't you see that? Look at your posts, there is something fundamentally wrong with you. You are no better than the Westboro Baptist Church followers. I feel very sad that there are people like you out there. Very sad indeed. If you truly understood what love is, there is no way you would wish the misery you spew onto gay people. Imagine if someone attacked your kids the way you are attacking gay people. You wonder why people are attacking you and your religion. You are just mean spirited. Have your pastor read what you wrote here, I’m sure he would be disgusted with you and send you to confession. I know you have turned a lot of people away from religion. Who wants to be part of something so hateful? For that I thank you for showing me that Methodists are not good people.

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Tim

2:40 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

His word, based on what mortals have written/interpreted. I'm pretty confident Jesus himself didn't actually write the Bible.

I mean, if we want to pick apart the Bible, it wouldn't take long. The thing about religion is, in the end, they are all fundamentally hypocrites, and they are all irrationally putting blind faith in something that may – or may not – exist in the afterlife. When you willfully disengage your rational mind, you force yourself to change the narrative as you go to fit the ‘belief’.

I’m personally not an atheist, I believe in the possibility a Supreme Being/God exists. I don’t need a religion mired in hypocrisy to guide my life. I see it every day – folks who are jerks during the week the first ones talking about their religious beliefs. I just allow my logical, critically thinking mind to guide my decision making. Bad things happen to good people, and good things happen to bad people. It’s life.

Now, I heartily approve and welcome freedom of religion. For the majority of our population, it's helpful if not required to stay on what I'd consider a common sense approach to living your life. It's where folks attempt to push their religion on my government where I join the fray.
The reverse holds true as well, I don't want my government to repress any religion. Catholic, Baptist, (other Christian denominations), Mormon, Jewish, Sikh, Islam, you name it.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:32 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

2:11 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

There we go! Very mature of you, HyattsvilleCouldBeBetter--nice name-calling! I bet your parents are so proud of you. It does make me wonder why you chose the name, "HyattsvilleCouldBeBetter." Perhaps Hyattsville Would Be Better if you could be more mature and stop with the hatred of people who have God in their lives and stop with the childish name-calling.

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Neighbor

2:29 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Wretch: 2: A person regarded as base, mean, or despicable.
Watch those movies with villainous religious zealots like yourself, and then you will understand that I'm not name calling. I'm just describing you.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:32 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

2:41 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Really, HyattsvilleCouldBeBetter? I am NOT (yes, I capitalized the word--if you don't like it, complain to the makers of the keyboard companies and have them remove the "shift" key) man or despicable. What IS (oops--did it again) despicable is someone putting me down just because I am a Christian and for the person, Amy, who called Jesus Christ "gay." I do not even care if she was gay or an Atheist--callling me names is one thing. Calling Jesus Christ (who never sinned in His entire life) names is entirely different. Oh--and just because I have no idea what religious movies you are referring to that are "villainous," please inform me. I'd really like to know about them. Because, the only "religious" movie I saw was the Passion of the Christ (where it showed the life of Christ and how he was severely punished for saying He was the Messiah and died a horrible death on the Cross). The only villains I saw in that movie were the Romans who did not believe Jesus was the Messiah and had Him crucified. And, you're right there--they were "villains."

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Ashley

2:45 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

There's a whole list of Christian zealots being the villain. And that's from actual history, not movies.

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Neighbor

3:12 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

You are missing the point of what people are trying to communicate with you. By voting against Marriage Equality you are imposing you religious views on other people who just want the right to be married and treated equally under the law regardless of their gender and sexual orientation. The movies with villainous female religious zealots that I mentioned above are "Carrie" (1976) and "The Mist" (2007). When you use your religion as a justification to persecute people who do not fit into it's prescribed set of values, you are committing a crime against humanity. Gay people have had to suffer ridicule and hate for ages, despite the fact that their feelings are natural and real. In many cases they are made fun of and discriminated in the work place. They are the victims of hate crimes and suffer from being ostracized and ridiculed. By voting against Marriage Equality, you are sanctioning this type of behavior. You are saying it's OK to hate other people who were born differently. You are taking away their chance of being treated equal by a society that is not supposed to be ruled by one single religion or belief. Voting against the marriage equality is harmful to that group of people. If you don't vote on the measure you will not be condoning gay marriage, you will simply be admitting that their lives are their own to manage. Do you want to impose your beliefs on other people?

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:32 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

2:42 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I meant, I'm not mean (not man). Typed a little too fast for my own good. Sorry.

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Laura Jackson

2:42 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Well, actually, I'm not "man" either. LOL. I am a woman. :D

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Steve

2:45 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

The more I read the more I realize this guy is right.

Belief is the death of intelligence. -- Robert Anton Wilson

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Amy Kelly

2:49 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross. - Sinclair Lewis

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Laura Jackson

2:50 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Tillie--I'm not making "gay" people's lives more miserable. If they are miserable, they have brought it upon themselves. My point is that I have the right to vote; just as you have the right to get an Attorney and have papers drawn up for you and your partner. And, if you really do want to get married, there are plenty of States that permit gay marriage. So, nobody is telling you that you cannot go to another State that approves of gay marriage and get married. That's all I have to say. I do not agree with abortion either (it's the killing of an innocent child). Some people don't believe it's a "child" until after it's born. That's their opinion. But, like on that issue, I would not vote to legalize abortion. I realize it's already legal in our State. And, I also think it's sad. But, I'm also not that radical that I would stop a gay couple from getting married (in a State that approves it); nor would I protest outside of an Abortion clinic. However, as an American citizen, I have the right to vote the way I choose (just as you do). We can agree to disagree. Why is everyone treating this like WWIII?

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Casey

12:43 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Civil rights, such as gay marriage, should not be put to a popular votes. If they were, much of the south would likely still be segregated, and interracial marriage would be illegal in many states.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:32 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

2:51 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Please, Ashley--name some "Christian" villains. Please. I'd like to be informed.

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Ashley

3:11 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

First Crusade - Pope Urban II
Second Crusade - Pope Eugene III
Third Crusade - Pope Innocent III (Ironic, no?)
Fourth Crusade - Pope Innocent III (again!)
Albigensian Crusade - Pope Innocent III (and again!)
Fifth Crusade - Pope Innocent III (gosh this guy was busy) and his successor Pope Honorius III
Sixth Crusade - Pope Honorius III
Seventh Crusade - Pope Innocent IV (hmm, all this killing seems inappropriate for a name like Innocent...)

...and so on. All throughout history Pope have been leading Christians on crusades to push Christianity against others, killing to achieve their goal if necessary.

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Tim

3:53 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Heck, the current Pope preaches intolerance towards gays, calling them 'destroyers of the family and society'.

If that's not hatemongering...

Laura Jackson

3:02 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Ashley--I have NEVER told anyone in here how they should vote or what they should believe in. If I have, then I apologize. I only stated what I believe in. And, if I'm wrong, I'll find out the truth one day. But, here's what I told an "Atheist" person once: Isn't it better to believe in God and find out you were wrong than to NOT believe in God and find out His words were right? In other words, I'd rather be a "fool" (as you might say) for believing in the Word of God (written by men who heard from God and actually witnessed Jesus Christ's miracles, crucifixion and ressurection) for my life here on Earth (what? about 80-90 years or so), than to "not believe" and die (going to Hell--thereby making me a fool for all Eternity). But, again--that's just MY choice. I'm not trying at all to "shove my religious beliefs" down anybody's throats. If they deny God or Jesus as their Savior, I let it go. I have not "put down" anyone in here. However, everyone has put ME down. This proves to me that I'm glad not to be "gay" OR an "Atheist," because I would not want to be as bitter as everyone in this blog seems to be (against anyone who does not vote for same-sex marriage). And, the Bible does state that Christians will be persecuted just as Jesus was persecuted. Gee--I wonder how they knew that over 2,000 years ago! Oh--I guess because God created the world, sent Himself down here as a human (Jesus), and is all-knowing. We are in End Times--like it or not.

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Tillie Diesel

3:10 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

My bet is that you are going to hell.

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Ashley

3:21 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Nothing risked, nothing gained. I'd rather live my life free of a religious oppression.

And you ARE trying to impose your religious beliefs on others. By voting against marriage equality you're stating that this country should be ruled by your religious views, not by everyone being equal and in control of their own life. You are denying others the same benefits that you reap. This is no different than the civil rights movement of the 60's. Don't believe me? Google both of them and look at the protest signs people are holding up. They are eerily similar.

Also, everyone who tries to force any type of belief on others will be persecuted. You want to know why? People don't like being told what to do. That is a blanket statement that fits any religion or belief. It's wrong of you to treat human beings like second class citizens because it goes against your religious beliefs.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:30 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Tillie Diesel

3:06 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

"I am very happy with my life and grateful for the things God has given me and my family."
So why tear people down who are trying to find their own happiness? When people are truly happy they radiate a positive aura about them. Everyone benefits. You carry a dark cloud around you. The fact that you are trying to promote intolerance for gay people (which makes you happy) in a world that is hard enough on people is truly sad. I guess as long as you are happy with your interpretation of BOOK, F everyone else? Try acting like a TRUE Christian for once. Gays have been around since the beginning of time. Find one who chose to be gay. Did you choose to be straight? Did you have a longing that you said No I will not act because it is against my religion, or was it just natural to go with a man? You need to understand that it is not a choice. You either are or you are not straight, it’s not a choice. Why in God’s name would anyone want to be treated the way gays are treated if they had a choice? When you finally wake up, it might be you that answers to God for making life hell for his gay children.

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Neighbor

3:53 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Thanks a lot Tillie for saying things the way they are. You get it. I get it. Ashley, Steve and Amy get it. She doesn't get it. My guess is that her neurons stopped forming new connections more than a decade ago and she stumbled upon a computer that her son set up for her and started exploring the internet. I think the talking point of the article is more interesting than the desecration of this thread due to dum dumb.

Laura Jackson

3:08 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I don't need to know you, HyattsvileCouldBeBetter. I know what I see from your rantings and ravings. I am very glad to have God in my life. I am glad that I'm not bitter like you are showing yourself to be. And, thank you for telling me I cannot vote. But, the fact is: As an American, I can vote. You must be "jealous" of how happy the Duggar family is. Otherwise, you would not have gone on and on about them. It's so sad. Maybe one day, you'll be happy. I hope you will find happiness.

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DawnP

3:19 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

@Laura, here's the actual text of the ballot measure we'll be voting on in November. Can you please tell me which part you find so objectionable? (It protects the civil rights of gay couples, while also affirming that each church/religion can make its own decisions about what marriages it will perform/recognize. Seems pretty "fair and balanced" to me!)

"Establishes that Maryland’s civil marriage laws allow gay and lesbian couples to obtain a civil marriage license, provided they are not otherwise prohibited from marrying; protects clergy from having to perform any particular marriage ceremony in violation of their religious beliefs; affirms that each religious faith has exclusive control over its own theological doctrine regarding who may marry within that faith; and provides that religious organizations and certain related entities are not required to provide goods, services, or benefits to an individual related to the celebration or promotion of marriage in violation of their religious beliefs."

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:30 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Tillie Diesel

3:13 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

A true Christian wouldn't have cable tv or internet. They would donate that money to charity.

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Laura Jackson

3:14 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

And, I never claimed to be self-righteous. Please go back and re-read my posts. You will see that I said I was not perfect many times. But, I am not a villain either. You cannot hurt me by things you say. You see, when you have God in your life (the Holy Spirit lives inside of you); thus, you are protected by nasty comments. I'm sure you've heard the saying, "Although 10,000 may fall to my right side and 1,000 to my left, I am untouched." That's because the power of the Holy Spirit is always with me. I can tell by your nasty comments and immature name-calling that you are extremely bitter. I don't know if you are a man or a woman; however, by your posts, it is obvious that you are either gay (or someone close to you is gay) and you have no religious foundation on which to stand. And, I really feel sorry for people like yourself. Have a blessed day! :D

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Tim

3:28 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

It'll be a truly blessed day when this law goes into effect.

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Neighbor

3:39 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

When I start to read things that don't make sense to me, my eyes gloss over and I think about the things I read in the bible. I'm a good girl. God loves me soooo much, everyone who doesn't believe in him is sad. I'll be happy forever lalalalala.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:30 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Tillie Diesel

3:16 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

We should be voting on taking away tax exemptions from churches. Let them pay taxes like every other business. Lets put this up for public vote and see how it turns out. What do you say? My bet is that a lot of churches would go out of business.

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Tim

3:22 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Now see, I wouldn't go that far. Churches DO a lot of GOOD things in the community.
They help the needy, for one. Far more effecitvely then a bureaucracy would.

There's no reason to inherently hate on any religion. One can be critical of religion and still appreciate it for what it is.
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Tim

3:23 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

What we don't need is religious oppression from our Government on any level.

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Neighbor

3:34 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I'd say just give 'em the country so they can duke it out, but the next thing they'd do is wage war on the rest of the world and impose their beliefs there. Liberal minded people really need to start having more babies. The Church mongers train them in their ignorant mindset from birth. They literally can see nothing else. Those of us who haven't been brain washed by mommy and daddy, who were allowed to form our own opinions as children cannot compete with a this infestation of free thought. It can't be reasoned with and never falters because it has been set up with a feedback loop that justifies itself over and over.

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FIFA_archived

4:01 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I just wish the Patch would shut this thread down. You all are talking to a loon. It is repetitive.

I am sure she has converted a lot of people!

Laura Jackson

3:24 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

So sad, Tillie. Yes, I do have cable (only because I like to watch Trinity Broadcasting Network). It's a "Christian" network that is very informative. If you would turn it on, you might see and hear all about the fact how we are in the End Times. And, no--Churches would never go "out of business." Ministers do not make much money. They receive donations from the people attending church. As for paying taxes, they do pay taxes. I would not expect you to understand this or the fact that some people are called by God to preach the gospel, and that's why they choose to become Ministers, Pastors, Priests, Evangelists, Nuns, etc. And, even though I have cable (to support TBN), my husband and I also donate money to those less fortunate than we are (quite a bit actually). Thanks for your suggestion though.

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Tillie Diesel

4:12 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Archdiocese of Los Angeles paid out $660 million dollars to abuse victims. In total over a billion dollars has been paid out by churches in America. They are very poor. lol

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Joe

4:32 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

More TEACHERS molest children than all the priests combined!
google teacher molest and see all the names and stories.
And their UNIONS protect them!

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:30 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

3:28 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Okay--whatever, HyattsvilleCouldBeBetter. Gee--a few days ago, I actually considered NOT (yes, I capitalized that word) voting against same-sex marriage. Because, honestly, I do not care how you or others choose to live your lives. But, since you (among others in here) have insulted my religious beliefs and even called me a Villain (i.e., Carries mother--yeah right!), I WILL vote. Now, if you care to apologize (and others as well), I might go back and reconsider not voting (if that will help your case). But, I will not be talked down to. And, especially, have my Lord, Jesus, criticized. For the record, Jesus Christ was the only perfect person to walk this Earth. He was not capable of sinning at all. And, he definitely was not gay. So, I'd like an apology made for what was said about Jesus Christ, as well.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:30 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

3:34 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

And, please show me the post where I said "it's OK to hate other people who were born differently." I never said that at all. If you can show me that post with MY name attached to it, I would greatly appreciate that. I never once said it is okay to hate anyone. I did tell "Julie" something that she would be a "liar" if she said she loved everyone. Nobody can honestly say they love everyone. That was when I asked Julie if she loved child molestors, murderers, terrorists, rapists, etc. But, I never once said it was okay to hate anyone. Please show me where I said that. I only made quotes from the Bible. I may have referenced scriptures in the Bible as to what God detests. But, that was all I ever said. Again--cut and paste MY post where I said that.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:29 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

3:46 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Wow, Ashley--thanks for telling me about all of the villainous POPES who held crusades and killed people. I had no idea (as I am NOT a Catholic). I, too, don't agree with the Catholic religion. They claim to be Christian but they have their "additional" book to add to the Holy Bible. The Bible says not to idolize anyone; yet, the Catholic people rush to see and bow down before the Pope. And, sorry--but, I don't think the Pope should be idolized. I've never seen a Pope who wasn't all hunched over, did nothing but wave, and wear a very tall hat and long robe (as if he were better than everyone else), and who was 80 plus years old or so. But, thanks for the info, Ashley. I had no idea that all of these Popes KILLED people. Again, I am NOT a Catholic nor do I believe in what they believe in. Oh yeah--I eat MEAT on Fridays, too! And, if you have ever noticed: The only people to ever be "possessed" by the Devil or Demons seem to be Catholic. I have no idea why that is, honestly. But, any type of possessions that occur, it seems a Catholic Priest has to be called in, speak Latin or something, to exorcise that person. And, I find that creepy. Anyhow, thanks for enlightening me as to another reason I'm glad not to follow the Catholic faith. :D

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Ashley

3:53 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

LOL Catholicism is the basis for your beliefs sweetie. You're actually practicing a watered down version of the real deal. Perhaps you should know the history of what you preach.

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OldHarfordCounty

10:30 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Do you know that the first Pope was Simon Peter? And that during the Protestant Reformation the protestant church dropped the Apocryphal books from the bible. That the original canon process to put together the bible you read (first in Latin, Greek and Hebrew, later translated to something close to modern English in the 16th century.

I not only read the whole Bible (in different translations to make sure I can understand the whole meaning), I also study it's history, the history of the church. I do not rely on my church to tell me what to believe, as I am capable to read and study it myself.

Don't judge me, or anyone again. You make followers of Christ look bad. You will not lead people to Christ only turn them off. Turning people away from Christ IS a sin. I will pray for you to come to understanding of what the Church in the books of Acts was all about.

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Stacey

2:47 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Other book? Which other book is that? I have been Catholic my whole life. In the 12 years that I attended Catholic school, I never remember another book that was used. We had a Bible. I am confused....

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:29 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

3:54 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Tillie--Sorry to disappoint you; but, I'm already saved, and I know that. So, I will definitely be going to Heaven. And, I'm sorry you are so insistent that God created homosexuals. The fact remains he did not. You said people were gay since the beginning of time. No. God created Adam first. Then, He took one rib from Adam and created a partner for HIM--a female--Eve. So, since there were no other people around at that time, gays did not exist. God created everyone equally the same; however, he created males and females. He created two different sexes so that they could get together with each other (man and woman) and reproduce. He also gave everyone free choice to do as they wish. It's because everyone is born sinners that some people succumb to their "fleshly desires." If they chose God over their fleshly desires, they would not have feelings for people of the same sex. Perhaps God is testing some people to see if they will choose Him over their own desires. But, God did not create people to be "gay." If you do not believe me, please talk to a Pastor. My Pastor agrees with me. And, nowhere in the Bible does it suggest that God created people to be "homosexual." If you can find that passage, I'd love to see it. Please let me know where it is in the Bible. Okay?

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:29 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

4:05 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

"Thanks a lot Tillie for saying things the way they are. You get it. I get it. Ashley, Steve and Amy get it. She doesn't get it. My guess is that her neurons stopped forming new connections more than a decade ago and she stumbled upon a computer that her son set up for her and started exploring the internet. I think the talking point of the article is more interesting than the desecration of this thread due to dum dumb."
Thanks HyattsvilleCouldBeBetter for the above message. The only reason you say those people "get it" is because they are gay. So, you put me down just because I am not gay? Well, just for that--I WILL definitely vote AGAINST same-sex marriage. We'll see in the end (no pun intended) how many straight people there are in Maryland versus gay people (religious people versus non-religious). Every vote counts. So, I'll be sure to get my church (as well as others to get out there and vote against this). And, HyattsvilleCouldBeBetter--just know--I'm doing this just for you!

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Ashley

4:13 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I'm not gay. I've been in a relationship with the same man for 10 years now. I just don't believe in treating people like they deserve less because of what gender they love. I'll keep my open minded gay friends over people like you any day. I will be voting FOR equality. Not against it. I think you'll be surprised how many straight people disagree with your hateful attitude.

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Neighbor

4:18 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Is this the point where the crazy music starts playing and you go grab a knife from the kitchen? Your hateful act started the moment you started posting to this thread. I'd expect nothing less from you. Pure hate. Demon.

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Tillie Diesel

5:06 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Where did I say I was gay? My religion teaches love and to treat people how I would want to be treated. That is equally under the law. Its you and your religion that are so hateful. Shoving your verses down our throats. Because your life was so miserable, you needed to be reborn... now you are trying to make gay people miserable. I want people to be happy. I don't need a book to tell me that. Your book tells you to hate gays (telling them they are going to hell is hateful), mine tells people to spread joy. I don't care if you are straight or gay, you are a person who deserves respect. And yes, gay people were born that way. I'm still waiting for you to name one person who chose to be gay, Is your pastor gay? Then he doesn't know what gay people go through. If I want legal advice I go to the source (lawyer). If I need financial advise I go to an expert. If I need gay information, I go to a gay person. And you bet I have gay relatives! I am proud of them. I will do anything for them because I love them. And for you to say otherwise, just proves you are not truely happy. Just a sad old woman.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:29 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

4:10 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Glad you think all denominations of Christianity are the same, Ashley. But, you are so wrong to think the Catholic religion was the FIRST religion. You are so wrong. Jesus was a Jew. Hence, the Old Testament in the Bible (written by the Jewish people) was first. As for the Catholics, I have nothing to say about them nor do I have nothing to do with them. I do not have any Idols (other than Jesus Christ); while they idolize the Pope. And, the Romans crucified Christ! Who makes up the Roman Empire today? Catholics--that's who. So, no--I do not support them. Ashley--it's obvious you know nothing about Christianity. So, please do not comment. It's laughable.

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Ashley

4:19 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I don't need to. You're doing an excellent job at displaying your ignorance all on your own.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:29 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

4:14 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

You're talking only about the Pope, Tim. However, this woman on the Board representing the Catholic Church said, "those who oppose same-sex marriage will be subject to intolerance and intimidation." Therefore, the majority of Catholics do support same-sex marriage. And as for hating? Even the Lord said he detests homosexuality (so says the Bible anyway).

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:29 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

4:21 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Aw--FIFA hates God because he is an amputee. I will throw you a pity party tonight if that will make you feel better. I told you that Jesus loved you and gave you a website to visit to prove to you that God LOVES amputees. But, I guess because a Minister without arms and legs is happy with his life and you are miserable, you need to take your anger out in here. That's so sad. Or perhaps, since I told you Jesus loves you, you're fuming mad and your skin is boiling now. That would be the Devil attempting to flee. Don't fight it, FIFA.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:29 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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jag

4:23 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Holy cow, Laura Jackson is still goin' strong, eh? The fuel of hate comes from an even deeper well that I original thought. There's ZERO chance anyone even remotely religious could stomach this woman. So glad to see she doesn't "support" Catholics either. The KKK would be proud.

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Neighbor

4:29 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

This is the part when the creature lurking within rips out through the skin, spreads it's dark wings and with a high pitched cream flies up into the night.

Neighbor

4:24 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Go ahead and prove everyone right about who you really are. Let your community know how you act out of rage. Let the poor gay boys stuck going to your church know how disgusted you are with them. Why don't you just go grab some pitch forks and start burning down the village. That's obviously what you want. I didn't turn you into a monster, you were raised that way.

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Sara

4:24 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

"If being gay is a choice, then when did you decide to become straight?"

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Laura Jackson

4:30 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Jag--how "ignorant" are you? You support the KKK??? I suppose you would. I do not support ANY hate groups. I do not support the KKK (probably because I am not white). I do not support the Black Panthers (probably because I am not black). And, I am not mixed either (like President Obama). But, glad to see you support the KKK. Now, your ignorance is showing. I never said I hated anyone (although I do hate child molestors, rapists, murderers and terrorists). I know--you all LOVE everyone (like in the 60's). So, how would you feel if your parents died in the 9/11 tragedy??? Would you still love those terrorists? I'm sure you would, as would others in here. Peace, flowers, and love. Smoke some more pot. Just because I choose to vote against same-sex marriage or do not go to a Catholic Church does not make me a "hater" of those groups. Ashley was the one who mentioned all of the Popes who killed people. I had no knowledge that any Pope went around killing people. But, if you support killers, by all means. God will judge you. I'm not worried what you do, jag, who you sleep with, or how you live. Not my business; nor do I care. But, I would vote against what I don't believe in. I also don't believe gay people should be allowed to donate blood. Look at how many people have died (before the Red Cross began TESTING the blood for HIV) thanks to the gay community. How nice of them, huh, jag?

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:29 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Bryan P. Sears

8:58 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Sara

4:34 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

"We'll see in the end (no pun intended) how many straight people there are in Maryland versus gay people (religious people versus non-religious). Every vote counts- Laura"

In the same way that you dont have to be an animal to support animal rights, you dont have to be gay to support gay rights. Several people on this thread have said they are straight and are just standing up for gay rights. As will many many other marylanders. Including those who are religious but believe that God does NOT discriminate.

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Ashley

4:41 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Exactly, and for the record, my mother is a DEVOUT Roman Catholic who will be voting FOR equality. Religion doesn't have to equal bigotry.

Laura Jackson

4:42 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Sara, I did not "decide" to be straight. I was born a female. I was raised with little dolls, wearing dresses, etc. I attended Sunday School, Bible School, and went to Church. I was raised by loving parents (oh--one man (my father) and one woman (my mother)), I played with both boys and girls. I was taught right from wrong. I was taught to please God (and being homosexual is not pleasing to God, just as being drunk is or being an idolater). I was taught good from evil. And, the "straight" people in here are not straight. Otherwise, they would not be screaming and ranting like this to stand up for "gay" people. There are a whole lot of people that feel as I do. If I were to vote for gay marriage, which goes against my belief, that would be like me having an abortion (when I believe children have souls at the moment of conception). It's not just a religious belief to me; but, a moral belief. As I said. You can think for yourself. You can vote any which way you choose. And, I will vote the way I choose. That's what makes us different from the Terrorist Countries (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc.). They cannot vote for what they believe. But, here in America--the last time I checked--we can. And, if I am the only person (as you say) that opposes same-sex marriage, then why do you all worry about the election? According to everyone in here, I am the only one opposing it. So, therefore, it should not matter to you. Therefore, you will get your wish.

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Ashley

4:48 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Soooo, my whole relationship with my boyfriend is a lie? I MUST be gay because I'm going to vote for gay marriage? Well damn, he is going to be mighty disappointed.

Your logic is seriously and psychotically flawed. You needs meds.

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Sara

4:53 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I'm sure that others on this board love that you Assume things. I'm not gay either. I do have gay and lesbian friends though. So I will be voting in support of their rights. You are free to do the opposite!

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Ashley

4:54 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

You know what they say about assuming, Sara ;)

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jag

4:55 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Duh, Ashley. Obviously 50%+ of Americans are homosexual. I didn't realize I was a homosexual until just now, thanks to Laura Jackson's help. Thanks, Laura, you hilariously insane person.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:29 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

4:46 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Sara, you will be able to marry anyone you want (according to your words that many, many Marylanders are going to vote for same-sex marriage). You are wrong that God does not discriminate though. If you truly believe that, then God would not give you free choice to accept Him or His Son. If you choose not to accept Him or His Son, then Hell is where you go. The way everyone thinks in here, you all believe you are all going to Heaven. Perhaps you will. That's up to God to decide; not me. I just know what God said (in His words, His HOLY book) is detestable to Him in His eyes (with homosexuality being one of those things). So, be gay. Be happy. Do whatever you want. I honestly don't care. And, according to you, my ONE vote of opposition will not matter. So, all gays in Maryland will soon be free to marry. Hooray!

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:28 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

4:54 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

It's okay, Ashley. Honestly, I do not care if you are gay or not. But, how proud will your DEVOT Roman Catholic mother be of you to know you mentioned all of those POPES and claimed they were ALL VILLAINS AND KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE? Apparently, you do not share in her views? Otherwise, that would make you a Catholic who hates all Popes, right? This is exactly why I am glad I'm not Catholic and glad I am not gay. See how hateful all of you are??? Apparently, gay people are missing some special gene (the one that makes them nice to others). LOL.

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Ashley

4:57 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I don't. It's been a matter of discussion in my house for some time. Her and I agree to disagree though, because unlike you, she is not a bigot and believes that we are all free to live our lives how we choose as equals.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:28 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

4:56 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Perhaps IF "gay" people WERE nice, I would not oppose same-sex marriage in the first place. But, seeing the display of anger in here, why would I or other straight people even want to be around you (let alone have you marry and live next door to them)? For the record, nobody in my neighborhood is gay; and guess what? Everyone is kind to one another. Shocking, huh?

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Corbin Dallas Multipass

5:15 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

"Perhaps IF "gay" people WERE nice, I would not oppose same-sex marriage in the first place."

Please, if gay people suddenly started acting nice to you it wouldn't have changed your religious belief that dictates your policy positions. Quit playin.

Laura, does it matter to you that under the law no one can force a priest in your church to marry a gay couple? It specifically ensures that no religious institution is required to marry gay couples. It simply allows them to get married at the county courthouse. Does that change your opinion of the law at all?

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Neighbor

5:23 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Perhaps if GAY people would HATE themselves the way I hate THEM, then I'd not worry myself to go VOTE against them. Oh whats that Dolly? oH yes, these mean gays don't like it when I tell them Jesus hates them. OH? Yeah, gay people, those people who live in HELL and and only come to Earth to spread AIDS? uuuuhhhhh shut up! NO you shut UP! I don't want to TOUCH you there. DAddy I'm soory please don't hurt ME. I'm still good. So your mother thinks she knows JESUS better than ME! I'm have the right to vote, and none of you gays can take this away from me!!! No don't get angry. I'm not angry. You people are sick but I'm in control here.

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Tillie Diesel

5:36 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

If Gay people were nice to you? Are you out of your mind? You compare being gay to being a murderer, pedophiles and rapist. You claim gays infected millions with AIDS.

You are insane. Your - "Let me beat you over the head with my religion stick... you don't like me hitting you on the head with my religion stick? You must hate religion. You are a nut job.

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DawnP

5:46 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Wow, as if it weren't obvious enough before, this person is clearly either a troll or complete nutcase (or both). There's simply no other explanation for someone to go on and on about their supposed deeply held religious convictions and THEN suggest that they might be willing to abandon said convictions if only gay people were NICE to them!

I suggest we all just walk away. The rule about internet trolls is "don't feed them." I suspect that the same would apply to the crazies.

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Tim

6:13 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

ooookay then, We're done here.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:28 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

5:01 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Well, gee--thank you, Sara, so much for "allowing" me to vote the way I choose! That's so very nice of you! I had no idea I needed your "permission." Oh--guess which President I'm voting for in November? Wanna guess??? Oh--wait--do I also have your permission to vote in November for the President of my choosing, too?

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:28 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Bryan P. Sears

9:01 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

8:19 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Please people--go to ANY website and google search: Do gay people/homosexuals go to Hell? Or, better yet, ask a Priest (of course, who cares what they think) or a Pastor, Minister, Evangelist or anyone who preaches the gospel. I think you are afraid of the answer you will get. You put down MY verses. That's hysterical. They are not MY verses; they are God's VERSES! But, go ahead and live your sexually immoral lives. Continue living life in the flesh. Have all the homosexual friends (of course, none of you will "admit" to being gay, which is funny) do whatever they choose to do. Let God deal with the "gay" people. I honestly do not care. I just thank God I will not have to see any of you in Heaven. Below is what I cut and pasted from just one of MANY different sites (from a MINISTER, I might add) on the subject of homosexuality.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:28 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

8:20 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Q. Are homosexuals condemned to hell?

A. Homosexuality is not a "heaven or hell" issue. The only determining factor is whether a person has been reconciled to God through Jesus Christ.

In 1 Cor. 6, Paul says that homosexual offenders and a whole list of other sinners will not inherit the kingdom of God. But then he reminds the Corinthians that they have been washed, sanctified, and justified in Jesus' name. Paul makes a distinction between unchristian behavior and Christian behavior. He's saying, "You're not pagans anymore, you are a holy people belonging to King Jesus. Now act like it!"

If homosexuality doesn't send anyone to hell, then can the believer indulge in homosexual behavior, safe in his or her eternal security? As Paul said, "May it never be!" If someone is truly a child of God, he or she cannot continue sinful behavior that offends and grieves the Father without suffering the consequences. God disciplines those He loves. This means that ultimately, no believer gets away with continued, unrepented sin. The discipline may not come immediately, but it will come.

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Casey

12:46 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura - You say that 1 Corinthians 6:9 condemns homosexuality. The Scripture says, (King James Version) "9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

This does not refer to homosexuality. It may condemn effeminate men, but there are effeminate straight and gay men just as there are masculine straight and gay men.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:28 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

8:27 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

The above was just ONE of MANY different sites on the internet by Biblical scholars. Therefore, as you can see (and all Pastors would agree) that homosexuality IS a sin (an abomination to the Lord). As it states, "No believer (that means a Christian for those of you who don't know what that means) gets away with continued, unrepented sin. The discipline may not come immediately, but it will come." And, I believe this happens either through contracting AIDS or after you die and come face-to-face with God. Of course, many, if not all, of you don't even believe in God's existence. Either way, you are rejecting God or rejecting God's WILL for your life (by knowingly, willingly, and repeatedly sinning against God's word). I feel so very sorry for each and every one of you. I truly do. But, as I said before: I thank God and praise His holiness that I will not have to see you in Heaven. So, continue living your lives (attempting to get AIDS by your perverted way of living--or your "friends") and see what happens to you when you stand before God. Also, to those of you who have cursed Jesus Christ as well as me, the Bible clearly says you will be cursed. So, yeah--I'd be worried if I were you. Now, I am leaving this "disgusting" site for good. I will periodically read others posts (only because I can guarantee that you will eventually argue with each other). It should be interesting.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:28 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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Laura Jackson

8:40 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I also know because you all agreed that the Bible is outdated, fictional, and a "fairy tale," and stated that you ALL believe that Jesus was/is "GAY," you shall be severely punished for your actions. I am certain that, because you have hurt Jesus (His Holy Spirit that dwells within me) I will get the opportunity to see the fire come from the eyes of God and be able to watch as he condemns each and every one of you who have condoned such wicked and corrupt behavior. Hell is a very real place (not a fairy tale), and I'm so glad I will not be there with you. You may read on your own about Hell in the book of Revelations and see the torture that is about to come upon you, the crying, agony, pain, and the gnashing of teeth that you will experience for all Eternity. Good-bye. And, yes--this is a FINAL good-bye; just as your experience in Hell will also be FINAL! There'll be no changing of minds. You can cry to God all you want at the moment of your death. But, do not expect God to forgive you for not having faith in Him, His Word, or, especially, in His Son (who died to cleanse you of your sin)--however, that is ONLY for the "BELIEVER WHO REPENTS (TURNS COMPLETELY AWAY FROM SIN). And, from what I've seen here, this does not describe any of you. I'm sure that's why God created HIV/AIDS (to rid the population of the perversion of your flesh). May God forgive you all. But, since you HATED GOD'S WORD and turned your backs on Him, expect Him to turn His back on YOU!

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:27 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

8:43 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

In closing, I sincerely hope the rest of your lives (filled with sexual immorality and homosexuality--whether you participate in it or support it) give you want you want. I want (and I know since I have been siding with God on this entire issue) to spend the rest of MY life in His presence, serving Him and then continuing to serve Him for all Eternity in Heaven. Good luck to all of you. You will definitely need it.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:26 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

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FIFA_archived

8:46 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

You have promised to leave before, you failed in keeping your promise.

Have you noticed that other "Christians" don't come to your defense? Must make you feel like a leper? Why don't they?

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Bart

9:18 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Fank and FIFA, you poor things.....sexual immorality and homosexuality.....now you've gone and done it.

If you look to the Bible, book of Genesis. Adam and Eve were banished from Eden because they ate of the Fruit of Knowledge.

Not sexual immorality, not homosexuality, not dirty movies,....... knowledge.

Stay stupid, my friends.

And...re: Laura; God needs her to side with him. Yeah, omnipotent but needs suppport. HA!

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FIFA_archived

9:31 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I am so sad Laura has left us. As a kid I watched Looney Tunes every Saturday "religiously". Now what am I to do? Guess I'll go to Chick-Fil-A in the morning.

PurpleNeons

9:31 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Can someone verify that Laura Jackson is actually a real person?

Has anyone actually seen her?

I ask because its hard to believe that a real person like this actually exists in today's world. I thought it was a comedy routine or something, or someone doing a caricature of Archie Bunker.

I thought is was comedy because this Laura chick wraps herself in God, Jesus and the Bible, yet is filled with hate, anger, hostility, prejudice, bigotry and obviously, a lack of a meaningful education.

To my knowledge Jesus, who is the ultimate Christian, led a life that was totally the opposite of the lifestyle Laura Jackson promotes.

I'm a Christian and if Laura thinks she is a Christian, well based on her comments here I think she made need an intervention of the Holy Spirit to clear her system of the rage and hostility, that is, if she actually is a real person and her comments were not just bad jokes.

Come to Mountain Christian Laura, we can help you, everything about your comments says "Possessed by Satan"

We love you and pray for your soul Laura Jackson....and can someone verify that this person actually exists.....We would like to save her soul so that one day she may be granted entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven. As things stand now Laura, your soul has been taken over by Satan and Heaven is a pipe dream my friend.

Let us help you...........please.

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emdubs

12:24 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Definitely a fake. You can tell because he/she/it was trying way too hard to be ignorant...it was an act.

Arlow

10:08 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

Who is this Laura Jackson, and why is she filling this board with religious blather? Thinking people want to know.

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Ashley

10:17 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

I seriously can't help but snicker at her. I really can't.

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jag

11:51 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012

She is an exceptionally disgusting person. About as un-Christian as they come.

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Amy Kelly

7:48 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Good Morning Everyone! I just want to thank all the people who had tried to explain the idea of seperation of church and state and their positive comments. My family appreciates your support.

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LeNora Clampitt

1:37 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Wow.......scary stuff going on in this feed. I am scared to death that my children may actually have to school with other children that are being raised in such close minded, hate-filled homes. But I guess the good thing is that my children have been raised in an open-minded, love-filled home that they will do there best to befriend those that are persecuted and ostracized due to their differences. Stay strong Amy. And yes my last name is really Clampitt, so if you every need an authority on being called a redneck, shoot me an email :)

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Bart

2:50 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Hi LeNora! How's Uncle Jedd? Just kidding.
My kids went to school with some kids raised in some of those same close minded, hate-filled homes. Your fears are well founded.
Those kids didn't grow up and move away.... they escaped. Some made it OK, some not so much. And a few of them did find refuge here, with our family. Not all of them are in a good place today, but are muddling through.
Those sorts of people ( the Laura Jackson's of the world) are not following what Jesus REALLY said. Most of his please to his followers were to love one another and take care of the poor. He didn't have anything to say about anything sexual. The closest he ever said was "those of you without sin may cast the first stone" .

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Tim

3:10 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Not that it matters, but I rate LeNora's post up here an 11 out of 10.
The self-deprecating redneck humor really is the icing on the cake.

Tom Barnes

11:51 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura Jackson - there would no AIDS in this country if not for gay people??? REALLY????? You honestly, in 2012, believe that BS????? I know more people that are STRAIGHT that have HIV then gay people. You are OBVIOUSLY an uneducated person in this matter so your best bet, sunshine, is to just shut your mouth. You just proved - in ONE sentence - what a dope you truly are. Oh wait - bigots are incapable of shutting their mouths. You like to spew as much hatred as you can in "Jesus name". Cupcake, really all you are in a wolf in sheep's clothing so let's not even approach the subject of you even being a 'Christian'. Remember this: Sometimes what you say hurts the people you love. I hope that any and all of your gay relatives read your hatred, see your vile heart and come after you with the pitch forks and torches. You will deserve it.

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Tom Barnes

11:55 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

I don't know about the rest of you, but if Laura Jackson's 'god' (small g of course) is who will be reigning in Heaven, I will go somewhere else. Who wants to spend eternity with such a hateful, heartless, vile, disgusting soul? I as sure as heck don't. What a mutt.

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Laura Jackson

3:13 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Gay people were the originators of AIDS (one ate tainted monkey meat, and another screwed a monkey), then brought it from Western Africa over to the States. And, yes--it is SEXUALLY transmitted (also through blood and saliva). The ONLY way a "straight" person gets HIV/AIDS is if they share needles with someone who is gay with AIDS, has a blood transfusion with someone who has AIDS, sleep around with a bunch of people (because every person YOU have sex with, you're actually sleeping with EVERYONE THEY SLEPT WITH--scientific fact). So, yeah--I can say, "AIDS--It is sad to think that ONE a$$hole started the whole thing." I DO feel sorry for the kids who get AIDS. But, trust me--it was transmitted to them via blood or a tainted needle!

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Steve

3:40 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

LOL How wrong can you be? Gay people weren't the originators of HIV and nobody "screwed a monkey". They got it from eating Bushmeat aka Monkey meat. The first person diagnosed with HIV wasn't gay. He was a heterosexual male from England named David Carr. That was in 1959.

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jag

3:49 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Wow, Laura, are you actually a 12 year old boy? No, no, even 12 year old boys know they're JOKING when talking about how someone screwed a monkey. You SERIOUSLY think that? In 2012? You simply must have the cognitive ability of a 4 year old. There's simply no other explanation.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:27 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

3:20 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Casey--you were on another SITE (asking about your homosexuality). You got your answer, but you just had to come in here and say what you wanted regarding the King James Version of the Bible. I'm amazed at how you can twist words around in the Bible to fit your lifestyle. But, it's STILL a sin--no matter how you choose to twist it around. Here's what you posted on another site:

Sherree's Leviticus Chapter 18 comment on 7/10/2012, 9:23pm...

Casey,most people who have a relationship with the lord line themselfs up with his word which comes from the bible, that is their guide on how to stay on track in this crazy world,you are to add nothing to it and take nothing away from it,maybe you are the one who should take a course in obedience.

I feel sorry for you, Casey--I will pray for you. If you want to talk to a Pastor, please listen to 780 AM Radio between the hours of 1:00 p.m. and 2:00 p.m. His name is Pastor Ray. Listen to his program, and feel free to ask him what his views are on the subject of homosexuality. He talked briefly about it today. But, he's always open for discussion. With that, I'm leaving this post. I do not wish to have any further discussions on a subject that is in opposition with the Lord's will for MY life. Nobody ever said you had to change: The power of life and death are in the tongue. God will JUDGE you. I am NOT God. But, I am an American with the right to vote AGAINST SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, and I WILL. BYE!

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:27 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Ashley

3:31 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Laura, you promised that the last goodbye was the final one. You just keep on lying, don't you?

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Ashley

3:39 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Also, HIV cannot be spread through saliva. It's transmitted through blood. You are truly an idiot. It's a shame that you produced and raised offspring.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/basic/#spread

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LCA

4:26 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

This is also a good site to get facts concerning HIV, from research to different strains to when they think it may have began, or when it can now be recognized as HIV.
http://www.avert.org/origin-aids-hiv.htm

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It doesnt matter

6:05 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

What about all these mushrooms this year? They're everywhere!

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Laura Jackson

9:40 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

May you someday really find God and the Holy Spirit will come inside of your hearts to let you know what you're doing is against God's will for your lives. May you all repent before the second coming of Christ--before Judgment Day. I pray for each and every one of YOU. I can LOVE all people (just not love or approve of all people's actions). That's it. I'm out of here--as this Pastor has told me to remain as I am (in Christ) and avoid that which is wicked. And, ALL who believe HOMOSEXUALITY is NOT wicked in God's eyes do NOT KNOW GOD. You do NOT have the Holy Spirit in you yet. I pray you do become saved. Perhaps Casey WILL change (as he has questioned another site on this same subject). With guidance and counseling from a GOOD PASTOR (not a false teacher), perhaps HE will become saved. But, that is something I cannot help you with. I can only pray for you. And, so I will. Good night and good bye!

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:27 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Steve

10:16 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

The Rev. Delmon Coates is a Christian Pastor that believes in Same Sex Marriage.
http://newsone.com/1875235/prominent-african-american-pastor-supports-md-same-sex-marriage-bill/

.......so there goes that theory.....

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:35 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Laura sure does a lot of typing and responding. I bet she is one of those able bodied people that chooses to sit home all day raking in the handouts from the government.

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Stacey

3:01 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Hahahha!! EXACTLY what i was thinking!

Joe

8:37 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

“It’s not preppies, ‘cause I’m a preppie myself. I just don’t like homosexuals. If you ask me, they’re all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia.” Senator Al Franken

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LeNora Clampitt

10:09 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Laura, I know even though you have said that you are leaving 952 times, you still read all the comments. So here's mine....why don't you take all of your "passion" and channel that "passion" into something good. Go volunteer at a hospital and see some people with real issues and maybe you can grow some compassion for other humans that are forced to share the Earth with you. Start using the word friend instead of faggot, love instead of hate and smile every once in a while. Do something possitive with your life, if you can find time between calling into radio shows and commenting on the Patch. FYI......."HIV IS transmitted through saliva (ANY BODILY FLUIDS)" - wrong wrong wrong wrong, this is how mis-information continues to be spread but you already know that because then you wrote "please make a small incision in your mouth. Then go to your "gay" lover or someone who you KNOW who has the HIV virus. Put a cut inside of HER mouth. Then french kiss.", if you only need saliva then why are you cutting people's mouths up?? Maybe your into that kind of stuff and that is ok, whatever you choose is ok, as long as you don't try and force it on me :) Have a great weekend!!

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Ashley

10:18 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Amen LeNora! Though I'm afraid your sensible approach will fall upon deaf ears as Laura is only interested in promoting her hate and ignorance.

Laura Jackson

11:25 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Gee neither (D) or (R), how many times can you say, "Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult"? I have noticed that the "insane" people or very sick tend to repeat themselves. I feel sorry for you, too. FYI--Go Read 1 Corinthians 5:9-13. It not only talks about homosexuality/sexually immoral being sinners, but those who ASSOCIATE with them/support them in any way are just as "guilty." It's apparent that none of you have found "Jesus" yet. Again, I feel so sorry for you. If you would go to www.Calvaryccv.org, you would see a Pastor named Pastor David Rosales. He was a "Roman Catholic" and grew up thinking he was a "Christian" while continuing to smoke pot, drink, etc. He, too, called people like me, "Jesus freaks." Feel free to read his testimony on his 2012 Archives. He said last night that his own sister, Rebecca WAS a LESBIAN for 30 years. She FINALLY came to know Christ, she asked Jesus to forgive her for all of those years as a sinner, she repented (turned completely away from the homosexual lifestyle) and completely gave her life to Christ. Rebecca is now saved, even though she had been a homosexual. But, I can see in here that NONE of you care to become saved or to know the Lord, Jesus Christ. That's so sad. Again, I pray for you. I also pray for Bryan Sears (who posted this entire blog). He also is a "LOST" Christian and needs Jesus (the Holy Spirit) to come upon him. If you have Jesus, you don't care about this world--only HIM!

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Ashley

11:29 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

" I have noticed that the "insane" people or very sick tend to repeat themselves."

...Well if that's not the pot calling the kettle...

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DawnP

11:52 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Frank, spot on, except you forgot the gratuitous use of CAPS and "quotation" marks!

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Spring Heeled Jack

2:20 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

I don't believe in the Bible. I am of another faith, one of peace and tolerance; unlike your hateful faith.

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Spring Heeled Jack

2:33 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Maybe I am "evil" by your definition. Guess what? Maybe I follow Satan. Just think Laura I walk amongst you all everyday... heee heee heee! "Buble bebop toehaging" that is Devil talk for "I am here amongst you". "Gogor do don phipe frohousin poodop" that means "I am going to Chick Fil 'A to get a sand-witch and drink ice tea while I sit down and read Magus."

Laura Jackson

11:44 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Perhaps, Ashley, you would KNOW (had you ever picked up a Bible in your life) that Jesus also repeated Himself (but ONLY in the attempt to get people to know of Him and the Truth). The "repeated" ignorance from some in here is not the same as what I have repeated. Also, I just gave you a "NEW" verse to look up. Please do. And, again--I urge anyone in here (who claims to be a Christian and yet believes Homosexuality is okay) to call this Pastor TODAY. There may not be a "tomorrow." Nobody is promised a tomorrow. And, no--Ashley--I do not "know" this Pastor, nor do I attend his church. I simply listen to his broadcasts when I am able. But, ALL Pastors say the same thing about homosexuality. If they do not, then they, too, are unfortunately "LOST" and without "JESUS CHRIST" dwelling within them. But, don't worry, Ashley--I have told you all the TRUTH. I will not say it again. It's completely up to you if you choose life (with Christ and turning away from the things in this world) or death (choosing the desires of your flesh over Christ). I choose life. I love Jesus, because Jesus loved me first. He died on a Cross for my sins (which, yes--I have asked for forgiveness of, which is sadly not the case for you). How could you treat Jesus this way, Ashley? You rebuke His words. You agreed with Amy by saying he was "gay"? Yet, you claim you are a "Christian"? You need help. Please call the hotline and tell the Pastor what you believe. Ok? I still pray for you!

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Ashley

11:49 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

lol Keep on going. You're doing nothing but reinforcing every sane person's opinion that you are a psychotic idiot. (Plus it's giving me something to giggle at)

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Ashley

11:55 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Also, just for reference (since you seem to think that everyone else is the ignorant one here) I am very familiar with the bible. You remember that devout catholic mother I mentioned? Yeah, she made me attend Sunday school and church every week. I've been baptized, had my first communion, and been confirmed. Just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I have no knowledge of the bible. I know the Grimm's fairy tales too, but I don't believe in them either.

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Spring Heeled Jack

2:21 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

12:09 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

"The Rev. Delmon Coates is a Christian Pastor that believes in Same Sex Marriage. http://newsone.com/1875235/prominent-african-american-pastor-supports-md-same-sex-marriage-bill/ .......so there goes that theory....."

Really? A Pastor that believes/supports in same-sex marriage? He's not a TRUE "Christian." He's so lost that it's pathetic. A REAL Pastor LIVES his life only for Jesus Christ. And, sadly, the majority of DEVOUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are "lost" Christians as well and know nothing about Jesus and think the whole Bible is a fairy tale. That's why most Catholics turn their backs on Jesus and live however they want to by drinking, smoking pot, having sex with whomever they choose, etc., etc. The Bible (even for those Catholics) says, "He who loves the world does NOT love the Father." It is impossible to love both the world and Jesus. Impossible. Go figure, Ashley. As to this "Reverend Delmon Coates," notice CLOSELY--He has the word, "DEMON" in his first name. Believe what you choose. But, there ARE plenty of "false preachers" out there. The Bible warns of that, too. Ashley--seriously--if you aren't afraid to debate this issue (which I am assuming you are), why don't you call this Pastor between 1 and 2 p.m. today on 780 AM radio? Why don't any of you in here stand up for what you believe in against a Pastor? Are you afraid of what you might hear to be the TRUTH? I'm so very sorry that your Devout Catholic mother lied and doesn't know JESUS.

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Spring Heeled Jack

2:21 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

12:13 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

I still pray for you AND your mother (as well), Ashley. I will continue praying for all of the "lost" Christians in here--the ones who have turned against Jesus just to justify how they are living their lives and doing whatever they so do choose (despite the warnings from the Word of God). I'm still praying, Ashley. Giggle all you want. But, if you do not ask Jesus to forgive you, repent of your sins, the day you die and stand before God, trust me--you will NOT be giggling any longer.

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Spring Heeled Jack

2:21 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Laura Jackson

12:22 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Ashley--I know you are an Atheist. My question is why are there SO MANY "former Catholics" that completely turn their backs on the Bible, the Word of God, and Jesus Christ and become Atheists?? I know so many that have done just as you have. There's seriously something going on that's so wrong in EVERY CATHOLIC CHURCH (seeing that the majority of you leave and become Agnostics). Could it be because most of the Priests that you hear about on the news molest little boys? I don't know of many "Pastors" in other Christian denominations that do anything like that. Anyhow, it's so sad.

And, DawnP--thanks for pointing out to Frank that I know how to emphasize words and use quotation marks. I'm rather good at typing and grammar. Oh yes--let's not forget punctuation! Frank is back in this site because he's been in the minority in another site (people calling him pidgeon poo). He doesn't come into the other site much anymore. Because, he obviously needs "friends" to validate his beliefs. I'm glad I don't need "validation" or "approval" from anyone in here. I have my family's love and approval (which I do not need; but, it is nice), and, more importantly, I have the love of Jesus Christ, and I have His approval. That's enough for me! I'll pray for you DawnP and Frank, as I'm praying for Ashley and her "Catholic" mother--the religion that turns most people into Atheists--so sad.

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Spring Heeled Jack

2:22 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your message from the Westboro Baptist Cult.

Bart

12:22 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Laura, you say:

"That's why most Catholics turn their backs on Jesus and live however they want to by drinking, smoking pot, having sex with whomever they choose"

Most Catholics? Hmmmmmmm.........................................

"He has the word, "DEMON" in his first name" Oh, yeah! He's the Devil, alright!

How long has it been since you last took your meds?

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emdubs

12:46 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Does everyone's opinion matter? Do people who speak out, without any credentials, need to considered in society?
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/sam_harris_science_can_show_what_s_right.html

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Spring Heeled Jack

2:25 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

People like Laura walk amongst us everyday drinking the juice, spouting hate, and preaching how hateful God really is. I thank her for pointing out and proving what I have been saying about hard-lined Christians for years. Keep speaking Laura... you are a wonder specimen proving my concerns of the hate hidden in Christianity. ;)

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Laura Jackson

2:57 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

You know what "Neither (D) or (R), your "threat" that you walk "amongst" us and "also hidden within our nation" makes me wonder if you aren't a terrorist (working with the Muslim Brotherhood/Iranian Radical Muslim Regime). Yes--it's a fact that there are over 100 terrorist cells right here in the U.S. Just the fact that you say you are neither a Democrat nor a Republican really makes me wonder about you! And, let me tell you this: While I have different religious beliefs than the people in here, if you ARE a "terrorist" and not an "American," you can forget about our discussions in here. Forgetting about our religious beliefs, our sexual orientation, our economic status, our disagreements, or our political viewpoints, when it comes down to it, we (as Americans) realize that the Radical Muslims (terrorist groups such as that of Iran threatening Israel with their President standing under banners reading "Death to Israel" and "Death to America,"), no matter what--we always (AS AMERICANS) stand TOGETHER against terrorists to fight for our freedom in this Country. United we stand; divided we fall. And, guess what--at times such as this (when terrorists threaten to harm our citizens), we are not/will not/cannot ever be divided! Just making that point clear to you.

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jag

3:11 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Absolutely psychotic.

Laura Jackson

3:08 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Oh--"Neither (D) or (R), I just saw your post that read: "I don't believe in the Bible. I am of another faith, one of peace and tolerance; unlike your hateful faith."

Thank you, ACHMED! Ever hear of Jeff Dunham's, "Achmed the Dead Terrorist"? Just as I suspected. You don't believe in the Bible. You admit to being of another "faith"? Hmmm. Radical Muslim might I presume? The Koran does NOT teach of "peace and tolerance." It teaches of becoming a martyr and killing as many Americans (be they Jews, Christians, or Atheists) as you can for your "Allah." Why? Do you actually believe in the Koran? That you will kill for your Allah and, by blowing yourself up along with as many American people that you can, you will go to live in Paradise and get your 72 Virgins? HA! Try it. You think Americans are "scared" of "terrorists"? We are not! In fact, we laugh at you. And, you did not "win" the war. I'm just amazed that you become a martyr for your Allah (who does not exist, by the way) just for the purpose of killing yourself and others. Is this peace to you? And, do you tolerate women who show their skin and hair? Nope. You keep them covered everywhere except for their eyes. Thanks for proving who/what you truly are. By the way, where did you get your "terrorist" training skills? All I've ever seen them show on the news in Iraq are playgrounds with monkey bars. And, that prepares you for your life as a martyr? Funny. Very funny.

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Spring Heeled Jack

4:39 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

I am Pagan and a peaceful person and retired member of the USMC and a patriot.

Laura Jackson

3:14 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

I love how you left out the part of which "faith" you are. But, I KNOW. Just by your statements (or threats) by saying you are "amongst us," and "hiding out in our nation." You can run; but, you can't hide. Just as the terrorist was caught recently in the State of Michigan. LOL. You'll end up looking just like Jeff Dunham's "Achmed."

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Laura Jackson

3:27 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

"Ebryone not wit God ain't good for 'merica. Lets call 'um out now. Git the crosses and bibles out boys, time to fite fir Gawd and his wurd." I heard that very statement on a Baptist radio show while driving through northern Mississippi two years ago, while scanning local radio shows. It just came back to me once I started reading your hateful blogs and brainwashed bigotry. Amazing people like this still exist in the 21st century.

Really? There you go with the "BIGOT" again. YOU are the "bigot" hating Christians. And, when have I ever said I hated Jews? NEVER. So shut your ignorant mouth. You are a bigot against Baptists? HAHAHAHA! I'm not a Baptist, you DA! This proves how little you know about GAWD. By the way, I love your spelling--looks like you're a RACIST, too (talking eubonics there, so it seems). I'm not a racist. Before I got married, I dated outside of my race many times. And, I'm not a bigot just because I choose to vote a certain way. But, if you want to keep calling me names, go ahead. Not hurting me. LMAOBYAAFRMTWIWJLTKRANBTLIIMHATIIAMRTDS! Translate THAT! HAHAHA!!! Okay--people--you laugh. But, terrorist groups (such as this guy) want YOU dead, too. You think he's here because he loves gay groups? Nope. If so, he would be a "Democrat" or "Liberal." But, he's neither. Don't stand for AMERICA people. Who the hell cares? You didn't care about those who died in 9/11; so, why care now--that Iran threatened Israel? Of course, you don't

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Laura Jackson

3:36 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

For the record--NOBODY can be brainwashed unless they are retarded or weak-minded. I am neither. Look at the case of Charles Manson. I think the Justice System is screwed up. They put him in a Maximum Security Prison for the rest of his life. But, Charles Manson NEVER (I'll repeat this so you can understand--NEVER) killed ANYONE. Other people did those brutal killings. And, THOSE people who slaughtered innocent people (some were actually RELEASED from Prison). It's people like you that are dangerous. You actually "believe" in brainwashing. Hey--If I tell you to jump off a bridge and you do, would I be guilty of murder? No! The other person would be guilty of being stupid or suicidal! You all keep believing that all Christians are "brainwashed." I am not one of those kool-aid drinking Rev. Jim Jones' congregational idiots who didn't use the brains that God gave them! Since they "followed" his instructions by drinking the kool-aid, I would have to say that they deserved everything they got. God gave you a brain. It's up to you as to whether or not you use it! Geez. I really have to stop trying to talk to stupid, ignorant, bigoted retards. You fools will all face God (believe it or not). And, I'll let God judge YOU. Vengeance is mine saith the Lord. And, boy--He has His hands full with each of you. I truly feel sorry for you! Read this and weep. No second chances--just like that Pastor in Maryland who screwed his congregation. He's in Hell now!

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OldHarfordCounty

4:03 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Laura,
Please, in the name of Christ, stop. You are hurting the chance for people to listen to what following Christ really means. You need to not discuss this with your Pastor, but have him read the entire thing for himself. Any good man of God will then tell you to stop. You preach hate and intolerance and sadly turn people away from the message you are suppose to be giving people. Don't take my opinion, have someone, like your pastor, read this entire board. Please stop invoking God's name into your hate.

HarfordLassie

3:40 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

After scrolling through pages and pages of comments- What exactly was the topic again?

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Joe

3:43 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Looks like hate bigotry and intolerance is coming form all sides on this story. No one side has the lock on that.

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Corbin Dallas Multipass

3:48 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Pretty sure only one side has it locked legislatively in the form of DOMA and other laws defining marriage as only between a man and a woman.

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Joe

3:55 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

"and other laws defining marriage as only between a man and a woman."

Yup. like the big law. The law of Nature.

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Joe

3:56 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Corbin, WHO signed DOMA and who voted in the congress for it? Which side was the man who signed it? Or do you forget which side that was?

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Joe

3:58 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Statement by President Bill Clinton: On Friday, September 20, prior to signing the Defense of Marriage Act, President Clinton released the following statement:

Throughout my life I have strenuously opposed discrimination of any kind, including discrimination against gay and lesbian Americans. I am signing into law H.R. 3396, a bill relating to same-gender marriage, but it is important to note what this legislation does and does not do.

I have long opposed governmental recognition of same-gender marriages and this legislation is consistent with that position. The Act confirms the right of each state to determine its own policy with respect to same gender marriage and clarifies for purposes of federal law the operative meaning of the terms "marriage" and "spouse".

This legislation does not reach beyond those two provisions. It has no effect on any current federal, state or local anti-discrimination law and does not constrain the right of Congress or any state or locality to enact anti-discrimination laws. I therefore would take this opportunity to urge Congress to pass the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, an act which would extend employment discrimination protections to gays and lesbians in the workplace. This year the Senate considered this legislation contemporaneously with the Act I sign today and failed to pass it by a single vote. I hope that in its next Session Congress will pass it expeditiously.

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Joe

3:58 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

I also want to make clear to all that the enactment of this legislation should not, despite the fierce and at times divisive rhetoric surrounding it, be understood to provide an excuse for discrimination, violence or intimidation against any person on the basis of sexual orientation. Discrimination, violence and intimidation for that reason, as well as others, violate the principle of equal protection under the law and have no place in American society.

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Joe

4:01 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

So Corbin, the party with the lock on defining marriage is YOUR party.

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Corbin Dallas Multipass

6:16 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

"Corbin, WHO signed DOMA and who voted in the congress for it? Which side was the man who signed it? Or do you forget which side that was?"

I'm not sure what that has to do with the current political climate which is what I'm talking about. Clinton has since advocated for overturning DOMA. Also, republicans voted for it back then, so it's not like they weren't responsible either.

"So Corbin, the party with the lock on defining marriage is YOUR party."

Uh, I assume you mean by my party the Democratic party, which I don't really claim ownership (or allegiance) to. Again, republicans voted for it too and without their votes it wouldn't have been passed. Additionally, that was the Democratic party of nearly a decade ago. The current party platform now supports gay marriage: http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/07/30/democrats-preliminary-platform-includes-support-for-gay-marriage/7Pa9LRahRG3f9Ax97NQu5J/story.html

The current Republican party platform in turn supports "traditional" marriage.

Another interesting point is I couldn't even vote when that was passed. Not much I could really do about it.

Anyway, you missed my point which wasn't about parties at all, but rather that one side has "bigotry" locked legislatively, namely those against gay rights. The other side hardly has any bigotry in the form of legislation oppressing them. Sides of an issue (as you pointed out) have little to do with party (see Log Cabin Republicans).

Laura Jackson

3:49 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

LMAO. This is SO funny! Look at THIS article (another thing you Liberals approve of). Of course, why wouldn't you approve of abortion? It's not like you won't be having any abortions (seeing that you are messing with people of the same sex). But, gee--I would think it would upset you just a little knowing that Obama (YOUR LEADER--LOL) has "brainwashed" you and is "forcing" you to pay for the abortion pill (even if you do not ever need it or use it). Here is the article that was in ACLJ.org (for those of you who don't know--they are Jewish (Christian) Attorneys who fight for "OUR" rights):

Obama's abortion-pill mandate is forcing Americans to violate their constitutionally protected religious liberty. This week the ACLJ has asked a court to halt the HHS Mandate, and filed briefs in 12 other challenges to the law. Sign the petition to opt out of the abortion-pill mandate, and read these updates from the ACLJ's attorneys.

Sign the Petition to Opt Out of Obama's Abortion Pill Mandate.

Obama's mandate is clear: if you pay for health insurance in any way, you must pay for the abortion pill.

Then again, people like "FRANK" don't work (he lives off of the Government and expects everyone to take care of him from birth until death). That's what he said in another blog--one that he hasn't been back to for a while (because others are "bashing" him). Isn't that right, Frank? Scared of Bill, Brian, and Buck? You BBBetcha! LMAOAAOYSIF!!!!!!!

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DawnP

4:26 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

I strongly urge everyone to stop responding to Laura here and on other Patch threads. No matter how well-reasoned your argument, you will never get through to her, and all we are doing by responding to her crazy rants is either (a) feeding a troll, or (b) pushing a mentally unstable person closer to a complete breakdown (which could be dangerous, as she evidently has access to guns).

Please, let's all just walk away.

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Laura Jackson

4:23 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Hmm. Pagan and loving. Oxymoron, isn't it? You cannot be both. Sorry. It makes NO difference what you think about me. I couldn't care less about what you or others think. I KNOW that I am going to Heaven. And, blessed be the Lord for not allowing "pagans" into Heaven. I'm guessing you are like "Frank" in that you do not work and take advantage of the system to take care of you from birth until death? That's what Frank said in another blog. He truly believes he deserves that right. And, don't feel sorry for me and my "mental state." I'm fine. Perfectly and wonderfully made by God. And, God LOVES me because I spread His word (even to those who HATE hearing it because it burns their skin). Think you're burning up now? You cringe at the thought of someone saying that God loves YOU. It tears you to pieces. You despise all thought of that (with your paganistic beliefs). I feel so very sorry for you (and your parents). And, since you say your parents are "Christians," they must be so proud to have a Pagan for their child. Right? I bet, as Christians, they are sorry they did not have an abortion when carrying you. It's like "Rosemary's Baby." Tsk, tsk. LOL. Also, you have no political standings, because you are not an American. I know (because you do not capitalize the "g" in God). For the record, get your facts straight there. You talk about being a "pagan." Yet, you say you are "praying" to a few "GODS"?? LMAO. Pagans don't believe in ANYTHING.

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:40 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Thank you for your very uninformed comments again, Glenn Beck. May your "G"od bless the evil and their misleading and disgusting comments. So sad....

Laura Jackson

4:42 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Frank
3:56 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

"You laughed and laughed and theh you left and now I've gone utterly mad."

But seriously, Laura, what is it that you actually do for a living, Laura? You seem to have a lot of free time on your hands.

You HAVE gone "utterly mad" there, Frank, haven't you? That's why you were kicked off of the other blog. LOLYSIF. And, you talk about ME and what I do for a living? Wouldn't you just love to know? Well, I DO work (and I work hard--unlike YOU). And, you say I have a lot of free time on my hands? No, Frank--YOU are the one who is ranting and raving 24 hours a day (must be the free crack you're smoking that keeps you up at night) on as many as ten different blogs each day. What's really sad is that you have no choice but to stay in THIS blog (because you have "gay" friends here). Unfortunately, you must be awfully lonely (as I've seen you make posts from early morning to evening to middle of the night). I'm sorry, Frank. Maybe if you got right with God, He would give you a couple of friends. Are you one of those "naked" fat people that sits on his computer 24-hours a day with nothing to do (no friends; no partners; no family members that love you; too lazy to work; expect the Government to pay your way through life)? Pity, pity, pity. Actually, I'm laughing right now. You are extremely entertaining with your "pidgeon poo."

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Ashley

4:45 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Laura Jackson

4:51 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

You only know of one word, DawnP, and that is "troll." That's so sad. I guess your parents even called you a "TROLL" while you were growing up. Probably everyone called YOU a "troll." I'm sorry if God made you ugly. But, you have to stop thinking you look like a troll--despite what your parents said to you. It has affected you. Me--a troll? That's way too funny. Honey--I modeled for Ford Modeling Agency. So sorry to inform you that I'm far from being a "troll" like yourself. I told you that God blessed me. And, yeah--he has (in ALL aspects of my life). He may have given you good looks as well (had only you not rebuked Him and His word). But, you did; so you deserve everything (or should I say nothing) that you get in this life. And, you said you were married with children? Yeah--I'll bet. I feel so sorry for your children. Perhaps, that's why (by your own admission) one or all of them turned gay. Because of YOU. Nobody to blame but YOU. You should have learned about God, and taught them. I am leaving YOU and FRANK. YOU are both useless members of society (and I'm personally tired of supporting you). BYIBOF!!!! And, ASSLey--Martin Luther King was talking about people like YOU, dear!!!!

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Ashley

4:58 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

LOL I'm sure he was... you know, because he wasn't a man that promoted tolerance and peace between people or anything like that. Nope.

Seriously though, how long do you plan to keep this up? I'm wondering if I should make some popcorn or something. Anyone want to come over to my place and we can have a "gay" viewing party and sit around and snicker at such a hateful, ignorant person? Maybe listen to some Ricky Martin while we're at it.

Laura Jackson

7:22 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

No need to respond to Assley, DawnP (the TROLL lady) or Frank. I work. That's ALL you need to know. But, my husband makes a lot more than I do, and; so, we do pretty good for ourselves. Our children also have jobs. They all work. Nobody in our family lives off of the SYSTEM (like you do). Anyhow, I have sinned here. I have been speaking to/associating with "gay" people. And, the Lord forbids me to have any further association with ANY of you, according to His word. So, it says: At least as far as men performing homosexual acts, the scriptures are very specific that God considers it an abomination. The only scripture that would apply to lesbians might be Romans 1:26-27. “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, , leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.” Clearly Paul is here saying that homosexual acts by either gender are unnatural. The Old Testament passages, and even Paul’s comments in 1 Corinthians specifically talk about men engaging in sexual hath light with darkness?

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Laura Jackson

7:28 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

2 Corinthians 6:14-17: “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said: I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore come out from among them and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.” Another might quote 1 Corinthians 15:33, which says “evil companionships corrupt good morals.” So, I will pray to God for having ANY associations with you. And, you thought I was "mean"? That's because the Holy Spirit lives within me and condemns ALL sexual immorality. So, if you think you could not tolerate what I did? You aint seen NOTHING yet. Just wait until you all stand before God, and He imparts His wrath upon you for the lives you have lived and rebuked Him and His ways, but rather chose to live in the World's Ways and in such an unrighteous manner by loving, supporting, and participating in acts of sexual immorality and homosexuality. I love you all; but, yes, I HATE your sins. May you reach out to God before you die. I WILL be forgiven for being in this site and speaking to you, because I repent. From this point on, I will simply "IGNORE" you all

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JDStuts

10:55 am on Friday, August 31, 2012

A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.

1 Timothy 2:11-12

Spring Heeled Jack

8:34 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

I pray to the gods for Laura, seriously. I honestly feel bad for you Laura.

In note: I will never offer any insight into my beliefs, practices, political standings, identity, or the like on a public forum like this. In fact: you would be shocked if you knew who I was and my standings within the community. Its impressively kind, loving, caring, supportive, and full of volunteer work and donations to many great establishments, projects and politicians.

May the gods bless you Laura!

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Spring Heeled Jack

8:37 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Also, I just attended a local fundraising event today in the Perry Hall/ White Marsh area. I donated money and personal support for the project. (No hateful messages involved. It was a peaceful open to ALL event. Everyone is welcome!)

Reggie

1:18 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012

Laura's sanctimonious comments are not half as obnoxious as the smugness from the other side. At least she is honest about who she is and what she thinks - unlike "happy wayne" who lobs grenades from the shadows. Apparently, we'd all be very impressed if we knew the identity of this mystery VIP who's proud to tell us about his good deed doing. Hmm who's the sanctimonious one really?

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Tillie Diesel

4:04 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

"At least she is honest" - Really? You believe she is a 40 year old former ford model who just happened to end up in harford county as a born again methodist? Really, you believe her?? She doesn't even know what an internet troll is! That alone is proof that she is in her 60's, most likely overweight with a miserable life so she needed to find the light and make everyone around her just as miserable as she is. Good grief people are gullible.

Laura Jackson

10:19 am on Friday, August 31, 2012

By the way, Ms. Tillie. If you're going to quote me, get it right! I never said I was 40 years old. I'm 44 years old!!! And, yeah--I am really FAT. A whole 110 pounds worth. You, on the other hand, probably look like a "hag" who weighs about 450 pounds and you claim disability so you do not have to work. What a waste of space! But, that's okay. At least, God will not be wasting any of Heaven's space by having YOU there. BTW--if you are such a PRO-GAY ACTIVIST, why are YOU such a COWARD??? Why don't you call into 780 AM RADIO between 1:00 p.m. and 2:00 p.m. PLEASE!!! I would love to hear what Reverend Ray has to say to YOU and your opinions of homosexuality. I'm also completely amazed at the fact that EVERYONE on this site is so "PRO-GAY" and yet NOBODY admits THEY, THEMSELVES, ARE GAY. It's okay--nobody is going to hurt you. You CAN admit it and come out of your closets. It "FAGGOT" hurts you, then so be it. But, I call it as I see it. HAHAHAHAHA! And, Zep--you aint nothing but a N/F lover. So, whatever!

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jag

10:39 am on Friday, August 31, 2012

You better start praying there's no hell. Or do you seriously think Jesus is cool with bigots running around yelling "FAGGOT" at other human beings? You're an awful person. Truly. What a sad waste you are.

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JDStuts

10:49 am on Friday, August 31, 2012

This is obviously a troll extremis. People like this just don't exist.

Spring Heeled Jack

10:57 am on Friday, August 31, 2012

I agree JD. Rebel rouser. Not a real person, but portraying an extremist, violent christian.

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Amy Kelly

11:07 am on Friday, August 31, 2012

Laura... enjoy your pat down from the female TSA officers at the airport! Don't forget to take off that HUGE METAL Cross off your back before you go through the metal detector.

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Laura Jackson

4:23 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Dee--You say you are a "Christian." Well, you are NOT if you agree with THESE people. They have all said that the Bible is a "FAIRYTALE." They have all said that "JESUS IS GAY" and then they call ME a "BIGOT" just because I said that I would NOT support gay-marriage. I AM voting! AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE. To be a Christian and to support THEM says a lot. To say NOTHING says so much. And, sorry Dee--but, I view people who have sex PRIOR to marriage the same as homosexuals. So does the Bible. That's WHY I got married. To avoid fornication. So, shame on you for not believing in God's world and choosing to join those adulterers, fornicators, and homosexuals. May God have mercy on YOUR soul, Dee. They think I have shown "wrath." Again, they haven't seen anything compared to what they will see when they see GOD! I'm ashamed of ALL CHRISTIANS who come into this site and agree with these homosexuals. God does LOVE all people. He HATES all sin. What YOU fail to see is that there IS a Hell for a reason, and God doesn't put ALL people in Heaven just because they're "nice." A nice homosexual is great; but, if he/she doesn't REPENT, he/she will NEVER enter into the Kingdom of God. Too bad; so sad. And, stop showing "youtube" stuff, Corbin. Nobody cares to watch the sick people who agree with homosexuality. Again, if you are so "brave" and FOR these people, call into 780 AM between 1 and 2 p.m. I would LOVE to hear what a Minister would say to YOU about homosexuality.

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Ashley

9:53 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Just go away, Laura. No one cares.

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Laura Jackson

4:23 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

You're absolutely right, Ashley. No one CARES about YOU or any other sinner in here. Anyone who has rebuked the Word of God and sinned by saying Jesus is gay will go to Hell. So, you're right. No one CARES about homosexuals--especially GOD! Know that! You WILL be severely punished for rebuking Jesus Christ--His one and only son!

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jag

11:04 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Laura, are you illiterate? Someone said "What if Jesus is gay?" No one said he was, in fact, gay. No one here cares about what his sexual orientation was, except you. Your obsession with homosexuality is very odd. As is your obsession with demeaning everyone around you. You're by far the least Christian person here.

Amy Kelly

1:48 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Hello, I'm the person who stated HYPOTHETICALLY "What if Jesus was gay"
hy·po·thet·i·cal
   [hahy-puh-thet-i-kuhl]

adjective Also, hy·po·thet·ic ( for defs. 1–4 ) .
1.
assumed by hypothesis; supposed: a hypothetical case.

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Amy Kelly

1:51 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Laura, don't misquote me. But I understand that confusion can happen when things are written done. That is why I treat the Bible as any other book.... open to interpretation and misquotes. That is why it is referred as The Bible... and not autographed by God or printed in Heaven but most likely some place in China by enslaved children of God for people to read.

VWK

1:50 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Laura, for the love of God (and I mean that literally) please stop talking. On behalf of true Christians everywhere, I would like to say we would never wish anyone to go to hell, or take delight in seeing anyone go there. Being gay does not condemn you to hell. Being sinful does not condemn you to hell. Rejection of Jesus as the Son of God will. Every last one of us commits some type of sin on a daily basis. If you ask Jesus for forgiveness and commit your life to him, you will be forgiven. He loved us all enough to take our punishment for us - all you have to do is ask.

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Amy Kelly

1:54 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Believe me.. If God actually wrote and printed the Bible. His picture would be on the back cover and he would be on the lecture circuit. However, at this time God has only appeared on slice of Toast and maybe a crop circle or too.

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Tillie Diesel

4:00 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I think Laura seriously may need to see a doctor. There is something wrong with her. Perhaps an aneurism or some condition that is making her mentally unstable. I see it all the time on Law and Order. This nut bag is about to crack. She won’t be able to tell herself since it is happening to her. If she is in fact married or has kids, I hope they get her some help before it’s too late. I think most of us can see in her posts that there is something really wrong with her and I think it extends beyond a mental issue. I am sure her preacher is exploiting this defect… she probably signed her assets over to him already for being eternally saved. Lol, old people, they are so funny sometimes. Maggie Gallagher isn’t this crazy!

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Laura Jackson

6:11 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

You're RIGHT--VWK--Laura, for the love of God (and I mean that literally) please stop talking. On behalf of true Christians everywhere, I would like to say we would never wish anyone to go to hell, or take delight in seeing anyone go there. Being gay does not condemn you to hell. Being sinful does not condemn you to hell. Rejection of Jesus as the Son of God will. Every last one of us commits some type of sin on a daily basis. If you ask Jesus for forgiveness and commit your life to him, you will be forgiven. He loved us all enough to take our punishment for us - all you have to do is ask.

Now, VWK--go back and read your OWN post. Read it again and again and again. You're right that God forgives Sinners; however, NONE of these people believe that homosexuality is a sin. And, NONE of them believe the Bible is REAL. And, NONE of them believe Jesus died for their sins. So, yes--unfortunately, they ARE all going to Hell. If you'll read way back from the beginning, I told them to ask for forgiveness. I said I would "pray" for them; however, they laughed about it and called Jesus GAY. So, do you really think that NOT asking for forgiveness, continuing on the same path they're on and NOT repenting (turning away from homosexuality) is going to get them into Heaven? NO. And, if your church teaches you that homosexuality is "normal" and "okay" with God, you'd better find another church. Too many "false prophets" in these last days who'd rather live for the world; not God!

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Laura Jackson

6:17 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Also, VWK--the Bible clearly says in 1 Corinthians 6:9 that homosexuality IS a sin. And, yeah--if they asked God to forgive them, and repented, they WOULD be saved. But, they're delusional. They actually think they can keep doing what they're doing and still go to Heaven. I don't "wish" anyone goes to Hell. I prayed for these "sick" people. But, they have to WANT to accept Christ. Since they have repeatedly REJECTED CHRIST AS THEIR SAVIOR, THEY ARE GOING TO HELL. You cannot change them. And, they only have ONE chance. God is not a God of second chances. If Jesus comes back tonight, they go to Hell--it's that simple. At least, I KNOW where I'm going when I die. And, yes--I thank the Lord for EVERYTHING. True--we are all born sinners. But, those who rebuke the Lord and do what they are doing will NEVER enter the Kingdom. The Bible also clearly states to AVOID THE WICKED AND EVIL PEOPLE. So, if you ARE a "Christian," VWK--then shame on you for involving yourself with these wicked perverted people who have ALL turned their backs on Jesus! Good-bye. I'm deleting PATCH, as I have NO FURTHER thing to say to any non-believers. Believers are supposed to avoid all such people and stay with those who ARE believers in Christ. BYE!

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Ryan

8:41 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012

Don’t worry Laura, you will be decaying in the ground after you die just like everyone else.

Collin

11:59 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Is Laura's health the only rude remark you have to back up whatever your trying to prove, which nobody even knows anymore what your trying to prove. Also in earlier comments I had seen mention of Laura's children. How dare anyone bring somebodies family into such a filthy sounding discussion. You don't know them, and whose to say they will grow up with the same believes as their parents. My dad is a huge supporter of liberal ideas and now that I'm old enough to understand politics I have changed my own views on political issues to more of a conservative view. When a liberal can beat me in an argument with facts, and without changing the subject or calling me some idiotic name, then I will have respect for them but until then, they will get nothing from me.

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Lily Qi

9:17 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012

Since I was the one originally quoted in the Patch piece that triggered all these back and forth comments, let me just clarify on a couple of things to set the record straight:

1. I talked about the creative class as a phrase coined by Richard Florida, who, in his famous book, "Rise of the Creative Class," argues that a locale that is attractive to gays is also one that thrives. So gays were not singled out as the creaitve class or the only creative class, which is loosely defined in the book as all of us who engage in knowledge-based jobs or economy. My comments were in the larger context of a communty's overall tolerance toward people they perceive to be "different." This very short piece does not really reflect exactly what I said at the conference. Many people approached me after the panel and not a single one mentioned anything about my comments on same sex marriage because it was mostly about economic development and this was taken out of context.

2. A better way to understand my views would be to read my article on the subject, which bears the same title as this short piece by the Patch, called "Same Sex Marriage as Economic Imperative," here is the link, http://www.asianfortunenews.com/article_0912.php?article_id=16.

Thanks for your interests and comments. --Lily Qi

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